I like the remover because I don't need steam and I don't need wedges. It's fast and easy to control. The remover works fast enough that the wood doesn't get as saturated as when using just water and felt wedges. I've never had any trouble getting the new bushings to stick, and I've never loosened a key button. I probably get most of the remover out when I scrape any gelled glue out of the mortise. The wood dries very quickly, but that's probably because I'm in Colorado and we usually have less than 20% humidity. I have one of the shark steamers mention here, but I find that it tends to expel quite a bit of water along with the steam. Jeremy Gould > From: "Keith Roberts" <keithspiano at gmail.com> > Date: July 20, 2007 4:21:35 PM MDT > To: "College and University Technicians" <caut at ptg.org> > Subject: Re: [CAUT] Steamer > Reply-To: keithspiano at gmail.com, College and University Technicians > <caut at ptg.org> > > > I like the steam because it doesn't use the remover. I don't like > to impregnate the surfaces I need to glue with glue remover. I feel > like I should rinse them afterwards. I try to use the remover > sparingly as a dust-buster or wetting agent only and let the water > do the work. Add heat and the water does better. > > A good steam can vary in temp by 80*. When it's hot, the wood dries > in minutes after removing the bushings. This is not good for > resizing the mortices. > > Keith Roberts > > > On 7/20/07, Jeremy Gould <jeremygould at bsn1.net> wrote: > For removing key bushings, I've had good luck using a hypo oiler with > a dilute solution of wallpaper paste remover. I just soak the > bushings, wait 15 minutes or so, and if they don't fall off, I run my > key easing iron through the damp bushing to apply a little steam. > It's pretty quick and easy unless someone has used yellow wood glue. > > Jeremy Gould > > Pianist, Teacher, Piano Technician > Greeley Area Music Teachers Association, President > > Gould and Fall Piano > 1720 17th Ave. > Greeley, CO 80631 > 970.336.1496 > > jeremygould at bsn1.net > > > > > > > From: "Ted Sambell" <edward.sambell at sympatico.ca> > Date: July 20, 2007 10:53:18 AM MDT > To: "College and University Technicians" <caut at ptg.org> > Subject: Re: [CAUT] steamer > Reply-To: College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org> > > > The reason soaking might not work is because of drying out. One > should consider cutting wedges of hammer felt to fit into the > mortices. to keep them wet. Take a look at Bill Spurlock's website: > www.spurlocktools.com I like to insert his sizing cauls and lightly > dry the keys with a heat gun. > > Ted Sambell > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Garee, Anne E. > To: caut at ptg.org > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 11:16 AM > Subject: [CAUT] steamer > > Alan, > > Check out the Shark Steamer that was featured in the journal > earlier this year. It is hand-held or sits on the bench for hands- > free use. It directs the steam in a very narrow path which is > great for targeting just the bushing. You can have a handful of > keys in one hand and the tweezers or needle nose in the other. > > > > Here is a link I found just now through Google. > > http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/sr=1-6/qid=1184864331/ > ref=sr_1_6/601-9110439-1358515?ie=UTF8&asin=B000GHDN38 > > > > I got mine at Bed, Bath and Beyond but they are available through > Target, etc. Nice tool. > > Anne Garee > > > > > > Anne Garee, Program Director for Piano Technology > > Florida State University College of Music > > 132 N. Copeland Street > > Tallahassee, FL 32306-1180 > > 850-645-7873 > > agaree at fsu.edu > > > > > From: "Glen Bingham" <glenbingham at gmail.com> > Date: July 20, 2007 9:00:45 AM MDT > To: caut at ptg.org > Subject: [CAUT] Stripped keyslip screw > Reply-To: College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org> > > > > Hey List, > > Any ideas on how to remove a screw with a stripped head? It's > countersunk into the keybed of a Baldwin M holding the keyslip in > place. > I can't take out the action till I remove the keyslip and it needs > action work! > > Thanks, > Glen Bingham > > P.S. The piano is located in the ballroom of a hotel :) > > From: ITUNEPIANO at aol.com > Date: July 20, 2007 7:23:23 PM MDT > To: caut at ptg.org > Subject: Re: [CAUT] Stripped keyslip screw > Reply-To: College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org> > > > Buy an easy-out of the appropriate size at the hardware store. It > comes with a drill bit and an reverse threaded screw. Use a sharp > center punch at the middle of the screw head to center the drill > bit, Drill a hole in the middle of the screw. Gently screw in the > easy-out, counter clockwise and the screw will come out. Bob. > > > > > Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com. > > From: "Chris R." <rpsvt at juno.com> > Date: July 21, 2007 1:32:53 AM MDT > To: caut at ptg.org > Subject: Re: [CAUT] Stripped keyslip screw > Reply-To: College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org> > > > I would drill into the screw head until it comes off completely, > then the > key slip should just lift out as though the screw were a guide pin. > You would have to look at the other screws to make sure the threading > is only in the key slip part. Another way is a stripped screw remover > kit you can get at the hardware store. > > --Respectfully, > Chris Rawson,CPT,RPT > > > > > > > From: "Delwin D Fandrich" <fandrich at pianobuilders.com> > Date: July 20, 2007 7:48:10 PM MDT > To: "'College and University Technicians'" <caut at ptg.org> > Subject: Re: [CAUT] Stripped keyslip screw > Reply-To: College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org> > > > And, if you use a reverse-twist drill bit the screw may come out > while you're drilling. (See McMaster-Carr, etc.) > > Del > > From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf > Of ITUNEPIANO at aol.com > Sent: July 20, 2007 6:23 PM > To: caut at ptg.org > Subject: Re: [CAUT] Stripped keyslip screw > > Buy an easy-out of the appropriate size at the hardware store. It > comes with a drill bit and an reverse threaded screw. Use a sharp > center punch at the middle of the screw head to center the drill > bit, Drill a hole in the middle of the screw. Gently screw in the > easy-out, counter clockwise and the screw will come out. Bob. > > > > > Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com. > > From: Jon Page <jonpage at comcast.net> > Date: July 21, 2007 6:28:29 AM MDT > To: caut at ptg.org > Subject: [CAUT] Stripped keyslip screw > Reply-To: College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org> > > > Or slice into the shank (and keyslip) with a Dremel cutting wheel > to make a slot for a screw driver to remove it. > -- > > Regards, > > Jon Page > > > > > From: "David M. Porritt" <dporritt at smu.edu> > Date: July 21, 2007 6:49:03 AM MDT > To: "'College and University Technicians'" <caut at ptg.org> > Subject: Re: [CAUT] Stripped keyslip screw > Reply-To: dporritt at smu.edu, College and University Technicians > <caut at ptg.org> > > > If you have a Dremel or similar tool with the cut-off wheel you can > usually use that to cut a new slot in the screw. > > > > dp > > > > ____________________ > > David M. Porritt, RPT > > dporritt at smu.edu > > > > From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf > Of Glen Bingham > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 10:01 AM > To: caut at ptg.org > Subject: [CAUT] Stripped keyslip screw > > > > > Hey List, > > Any ideas on how to remove a screw with a stripped head? It's > countersunk into the keybed of a Baldwin M holding the keyslip in > place. > I can't take out the action till I remove the keyslip and it needs > action work! > > Thanks, > Glen Bingham > > P.S. The piano is located in the ballroom of a hotel :) > > _______________________________________________ > caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives Jeremy Gould Pianist, Teacher, Piano Technician Greeley Area Music Teachers Association, President Gould and Fall Piano 1720 17th Ave. Greeley, CO 80631 970.336.1496 jeremygould at bsn1.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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