[CAUT] Agraffes and dampers

Porritt, David dporritt at mail.smu.edu
Tue May 15 09:36:36 MDT 2007


Paul:

 

Get Alan Eder's video of how to prepare a piano. It's good,
comprehensive and should be in every university's library.  We have a
resident ensemble that only does contemporary music and naturally they
prepare pianos a lot.  I've never had any real damage in the 21 years
I've been here.  This can be done carefully, without damage and expands
the range of piano music.  When we disparage this it makes us sound like
fuddy-duddies who are out of touch with life in the 21st century.  

 

dp 

 

David M. Porritt

dporritt at smu.edu

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From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of
Paul T Williams
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:09 AM
To: College and University Technicians
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Agraffes and dampers

 


Welcome Joe, 

The "prepared piano" as they call it here at UNL is a pain in the
@$$^$%#.!!  Students not only put stickers on the damper heads, but also
Sharpie pens and chalk marks, even on the strings, pluck with oiley
fingers, quarters, paperclips, staples, screwdrivers, and try anything
to get "the right sound"! This gives you lots of practice removing
objects from the soundboard and action and keybed!  Unless you're able
to teach the instructors on removal of foreign "stuffs" and insist they
pass the info to the students, you're out of luck on them not damaging
things. Strings and agraffes also get quite a bit of damage as well.
Think of it as additional job security..... 

Personally, I'd like to put a nice tight hitchpin loop around the neck
of whoever invented this "music"! 

2.  Your second question sounds similar to capo problems in grands.
Perhaps, ( and the more experienced CAUT members will add to this) the
agraffes have a termination point problem, either very sharp or quite
flat.  It could also be weak string problem or very high tension design
problem in Petrofs.  I'm not familiar enough on the tension scale of
these pianos, but you might want to look that up as well. 

Just a couple of thoughts.... 

Best, 

Paul 





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Hello list,
This is my first posting to the CAUT list.  I have two questions
1:  How do you keep dampers free from damage when modern music requires 
playing the strings with fingers and the performers paste the damper 
heads with colored stickers, then remove them and tearing felt, etc. 
This is at NYU, but my own experience in music school tells me it must 
be all over.

2:  A  Petrof P131 upright with agraffes to the top has broken every  
string from E6-E7.  The break is at the edge of the bearing before 
entering the agraffe on the speaking side. Any ideas?
Thanks,

Joe Wiencek
jwpiano at earthlink.net

tel: 551 358 4006



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