[CAUT] Agraffes and dampers

[Andrew Anderson]

No baggy included.  The dampers are marked as you notice and the 
resonant pluck points are painted on the soundboard.  At LCC the 
manager cleans the strings after each "modern" performance with a rag 
dampened with spirits.  Seems to work.

Yeah the damper heads would be easy enough to emulate.  Pass the 
white-out...  Little more difficult below the strings on the sound-board.

Andrew Anderson

At 10:56 AM 5/15/2007, you wrote:

>Does it come with a musically correct bag of plucking tools and 
>cotton gloves?   It sure looks nice and could take care of the 
>sticker issue; perhaps we can prepare damper heads this way 
>ourselves, eh?     pw
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>Andrew Anderson <andrew at andersonmusic.com>
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>You might suggest to the university that they get a piano from 
>Sauter that comes "prepared" from the factory.
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>Check out 
><http://www.sauter-pianos.de/english/grand_pianos_classical/omega.html>http://www.sauter-pianos.de/english/grand_pianos_classical/omega.html 
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>and click on the picture link on the lower right.
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>Andrew Anderson
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>At 09:09 AM 5/15/2007, you wrote:
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>Welcome Joe,
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>The "prepared piano" as they call it here at UNL is a pain in the 
>@$$^$%#.!!  Students not only put stickers on the damper heads, but 
>also Sharpie pens and chalk marks, even on the strings, pluck with 
>oiley fingers, quarters, paperclips, staples, screwdrivers, and try 
>anything to get "the right sound"! This gives you lots of practice 
>removing objects from the soundboard and action and keybed!  Unless 
>you're able to teach the instructors on removal of foreign "stuffs" 
>and insist they pass the info to the students, you're out of luck on 
>them not damaging things. Strings and agraffes also get quite a bit 
>of damage as well. Think of it as additional job security.....
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>Personally, I'd like to put a nice tight hitchpin loop around the 
>neck of whoever invented this "music"!
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>2.  Your second question sounds similar to capo problems in 
>grands.  Perhaps, ( and the more experienced CAUT members will add 
>to this) the agraffes have a termination point problem, either very 
>sharp or quite flat.  It could also be weak string problem or very 
>high tension design problem in Petrofs.  I'm not familiar enough on 
>the tension scale of these pianos, but you might want to look that up as well.
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>Just a couple of thoughts....
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>Best,
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>Paul
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>Joe Wiencek <jwpiano at earthlink.net>
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>Hello list,
>This is my first posting to the CAUT list.  I have two questions
>1:  How do you keep dampers free from damage when modern music requires
>playing the strings with fingers and the performers paste the damper
>heads with colored stickers, then remove them and tearing felt, etc.
>This is at NYU, but my own experience in music school tells me it must
>be all over.
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>2:  A  Petrof P131 upright with agraffes to the top has broken every
>string from E6-E7.  The break is at the edge of the bearing before
>entering the agraffe on the speaking side. Any ideas?
>Thanks,
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>Joe Wiencek
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