Hi Jim This is exactly what my origional response was. And I think comparing your off list note to this one you meant to use the word leverage instead of geometry in your last sentence. Moving the whippen rail enough to get any significant change in ratio when it is geometrically in the right place to begin with will cause other problems. For clarification about the jack angle. It turns out that it boiled down to being a question of whether the support of an extension arm or the position of the contact point for load of the extension arm was the appropriate place to measure leverage. As I understand it, using torque to describe the lever, the effective arm length is figured by drawing using the fulcrum and the length(and angle) of the force vector of the load as the hypotenuse. The effective arm length then is the resultant opposite side. Alternatively you could think like I have and think in terms of how far out on the lever the normal (a perpendicular line drawn from the lever itself) up to this point is, and figure your trig the opposite way. I'll draw a pic of this and post it to make it clear this evening. Essentially this is the perspective used when one says the length of the lever arm on a key is directly below the contact point of the capstan. Thats not entirely true unless the lever is perfectly horizontal. Like I say... I'll draw a pic tonite. Trig games are always fun ! Cheers RicB However, something more inportant is being overlooked here. If the wippen rail is moved back, and the jack realigned to the knuckle, the jack's clearance at the front of the balancier window is going to be reduced. If it is critical to begin with, and it should be for maximum repetition, then the new position will cause the jack to hit the window cushion hard on a hard blow, perhaps breaking off the tender. There have been a few times when I have moved a wippen rail, but those were only after careful measurements told me it was in the wrong place to begin with. I have never done it merely to change action geometry. Sincerely, Jim Ellis
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