On 11/8/07 3:07 PM, "Jeff Tanner" <jtanner at mozart.sc.edu> wrote: > But I would completely disagree with anyone who thinks that the > college system is the superior system of instruction of the study of > music. It is a system and it is a generally accepted system. But > neither Mozart nor Beethoven nor Liszt nor Tchaikovsky learned music > this way. They could have taught our instructors by they time they > were teenagers. And I bet if you polled a few of your instructors, > you'd see they would rather teach music via a different system. Hi Jeff, I certainly don't argue that the higher education music degree system is the ultimate, ideal way of teaching or learning music (and the variety of skills and knowledge involved in that word "music"). And I also agree that the testing/evaluation systems used in higher education and elsewhere are flawed, and by no means get to the root of things. But I am a realist. That is what we have, and that is where we work. It may be flawed, but it does produce results. Varied results, depending on all sorts of factors - all BMs (no, not that kind <G>), MMs, DMAs are not equal. Any more than all RPTs are equal. But those degrees do mean something, and all can "guarantee" some level of competence with some level of certainty. (And anyone with any sense will look beyond the mere degree for further evidence, and just about everyone does. But I won't go to a doctor without an MD, or a lawyer who hasn't passed the bar. That's a pretty good place to start. Then I look for references). Advanced music instruction for the vast majority of people today takes place in music departments, music schools, conservatories. If you want to design and try to bring to fruition a perfect way to teach music, by all means do so. I suspect the current system will be around for the rest of my life, and that I will continue to work within it for the rest of my working life. So what can I do to contribute to making this flawed system work better? As a piano tech, obviously there are physical, mechanical things I (and all cauts) do to put pianos into "musically appropriate" condition. That is a very important part of my job, and developing that kind of skill is an ongoing pursuit. But I don't work in a vacuum. I don't always go in when everyone else is gone and do my work and disappear. To be effective, I have to interact with the community that makes up the department. That part of my job can be extremely important as well. I can do it much better if I speak and write a common language, if I share common experiences with the other members of the community (faculty, staff, students, administration). Which is why I think a college degree, and especially a degree in music, can be a help. It means we have been through a number of common experiences. In a practical way, it means knowing how a music department works from the student's point of view (and I consider personally that I work mostly for the students - that's what the mission of the department is, to serve the students). It also helps if we have mutual respect for one another. I don't want them to have the attitude that I am "just the tooner - and all that means is he has a good ear; heck, these days with these machines, he doesn't even need a good ear." I don't think the profs would appreciate me having the attitude that they were "just born with that talent, and all they do is cram a few facts down students throats for regurgitation, keep role, and watch to see that their students progress a little bit in skill." Which is how I would interpret your attitude toward them based on the quote I took issue with. In any case, I think we need to start from the point of view that the current system of music education in higher education is a given. We really don't need to argue about how it should be reformed. That is outside our charge <G>. Regards, Fred Sturm University of New Mexico
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