> Most (not all) of the stuff I hear and read from some of these "self > taught" guys (and Mr. N is one of the worst in that regard) suffers > precisely from this lack of varied perspective. They see things from one > pair of eyes - their own. Never engaging in the give-and-take that a > true student/teacher relationship is based on, from which both learn. > Perhaps that's why some of these folks have such a jaundiced view of the > educational establishment - they seem to universalize their own > miserable experience which may have been caused in part by their own > unwillingness to perhaps listen to someone else's voice but their own... > > Israel Stein I see that I've missed out. Had you been around to guide and inform me throughout my miserable mislead life, I might have eventually learned something worthwhile and become knowledgeable and competent at what I do. Pity it's too late for me to take up the Stein way of thinking at this point. I'm already ruined by too many rational cause and effect connections. And I still have met more than a few people who became quite accomplished musicians without formal instruction of any kind, which is what this was all about. Ron N
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