This is the sad truth... and exactly why I stand on my stance that if CAUT is first going to do something along these lines... it simply has to be worth its salt. Very demanding... Otherwise there is no chance of overcoming the WISA truth of Jon Pages statement. The certification has to represent a real tangible value to universities... AND the organization is going to have to spend a lot of time and effort proving that folks with this piece of paper can live up to expectations. Bottom line for Universities is that they will pay more only if they feel they are getting enough return. Which means they have to in the end come out on top one way or the other. This supposed <<CAUT>> person has to be enough of a draw that its worth their while. A tough task but a doable one if the political will amonst ourselves is there. Cheers RicB CAUT Qualifications: Willing to work for limited pay w/ benefits and become a minion of over-payed bureaucrats and whiny, pretentious academia; early morning/late night/weekend work commensurate with the job. Face it, the work sucks but that's where you want to be. Aside from trying to 'pump-some-sunshine-up your-skirts' with "extra credentials"; no one cares. And why would you want to need more credentials to qualify for the same job? % ?? They'll pay what they pay as long as someone keeps filling the jobs. Sorry guys but this thread is outliving its usefulness. It's a hard sell, you'd do better trying to sell them a better potato chip. -- Regards, Jon Page
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