On Aug 23, 2008, at 4:36 AM, Richard Brekne wrote: > That said, and interesting as the above contrast is, I am really > most interested in hearing more on the lines of just how strong a > pianist needs to be to get the most out of an instrument. If Jeff > Tanners post is representative... then it strikes me that there is > something else going on then just the velocity / momentum of the > hammer. Jeff is probably no overly light handed person yet he > reports a heavy weighter being able to induce a buzz that no one > else could... that would seem to indicate that very very strong > hands can indeed get more volume/energy out of the instrument then > less strong hands. Yet the physical limitations as I understand > them... and as has been discussed several times here and on > pianotech would seem to prohibit this. I've had an experience similar to Jeff's. A musician in the orchestra (who is a friend and fellow piano technician) told me something must be wrong with the piano, as he had heard some very strange noises from the bass in a Liszt concerto performance. He had a CD of the performance (they record them all for private use), and, sure enough, there were some "strange noises." I played those same notes, and was unable to reproduce them. Obviously the pianist had played harder than I am willing to (and I am not a shy pianist). There isn't really any limit to how hard a pianist can pound the keys. I guess until parts start to break (the hammer flange at the centerpin and drop screw is usually first to go - from practice room experience). But what sound does that produce? Brilliance? I don't think so. At a certain point, "noise" outweighs identifiable musical tone. Hammer impact, key to keybed impact, and distortion from whatever happens to the string - which we can only guess at until maybe Stephen Birkett documents it on high speed film. You can only drive the strings so far and have the results be useful musically. The physique of a pianist is usually quite strong enough to go beyond what the piano will take. For a young man, this is doubly true. The young man will tend to listen with his fingers more than with his ears in many cases - an imaginary sound, not actually what is happening physically. Trying to play a loud passage so that the melody (or whatever is supposed to be most prominent) stands out from the rest: just keep banging the keys you want to hear harder and harder, trying to bring it out. A more mature pianist realizes that this doesn't actually work. That the only way to get a full, fortissimo sound with definition of a melodic line is by bringing down the volume level of everything else. You find out what the limit is for recognizable musical volume on the notes you want to have stand out, and then you voice (with your fingers/hands) everything else below that level. It is counterintuitive, as it means that in a fff passage you are playing the bass at mf perhaps (and it says clearly on the score fff, so that means pound as hard as you can, doesn't it?). So I would tend to come down on the side of saying that a pianist can, and many will, push the piano past what is usable, but there are limits to what is usable. There is a definite limit, though the line is fuzzy depending on taste. There is no limit, though, on how much energy can be pounded into the system (well, not strictly true, but true enough for our purposes). The best voiced piano can be made to sound horrible. Sad, but true. Regards, Fred Sturm University of New Mexico fssturm at unm.edu
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