[CAUT] Goldberg Variations

[Ed Sutton]

Valotti is Valotti.

Valotti-Young is Young's transposition of Valotti from "C-centered" to "G-centered." 

Young is Young, and a different temperament from Valotti and Valotti-Young. Jorgensen calls Young's temperament "Representative 18th Century Well-temperament."

Young is a "mathematically smoother" than Valotti, and was probably a theoretical invention of Young, a physisist who did not tune.  Jorgensen "idealizes" Young to give a mathematically smooth progession of cents tempering of thirds from C-E to Gb-Bb/F#-A#. Personally, I wonder if 18th century tuners were so worried about cents progressions (since the term cents had not yet been invented!)

When I was using them on piano, I felt Valotti was more fun than Young. My thought was that Goldberg would rest well in the relatively quiet CE, GB, DF# thirds of the transposed Valotti

Look them up in Jorgensen's _Tuning_ for descriptions, tables of offsets and diagrams.

Ed Sutton
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul T Williams 
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  Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 5:28 PM
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  Bilson likes Valotti. (or Young)  I've never tuned to Young.  How different are they? 

  Paul' 



        From:  G Cousins <cousins_gerry at msn.com>  
        To:  <ed440 at mindspring.com>, CAUT <caut at ptg.org>  
        Date:  09/18/2009 04:20 PM  
        Subject:  Re: [CAUT] Goldberg Variations 


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  Ed,
  I concur with the Valotti-Young. Last semester we had Sr recitals one Goldberg and the other I don't immediately remember. Both were well "reviewed" by those in attendance.   (Martin double w double transposing)

  Gerry Cousins
  West Chester University of PA


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  From: ed440 at mindspring.com
  To: caut at ptg.org
  Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:33:00 -0400
  Subject: Re: [CAUT] Goldberg Variations

  Goldberg stays pretty close to G major. You might try Jorgensen's "Valotti-Young" well-temperament, which is Valotti transposed to center on G. This would generally give "repose" on G major and "spice" at the edges. 
    
  Ed Sutton 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Donald McKechnie 
  To: caut at ptg.org 
  Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 4:12 PM 
  Subject: [CAUT] Goldberg Variations 

  All, 

  Our harpsichord professor and students will be performing the Goldberg Variations on our harpsichords next month. She wants a well temperament that works for the Goldbergs. I have been tuning the Bach/Lehman but she does not particularly like it this work. There is some time to experiment with various temperaments but I though it might be helpful to query this list for some suggestions? 

  Thanks! 
  Don 

  Donald McKechnie 
  Piano Technician 
  Ithaca College 
  dmckech at ithaca.edu 
  607.274.3908 






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