[CAUT] Goldberg Variations

[Porritt, David]

I like the Young because of its symmetry.  It's so symmetrical that the tonic 3rds of Eb and A are just like ET.  Of course that has nothing to do with any historical accuracy.

dp


David M. Porritt, RPT
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From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Ed Sutton
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Valotti is Valotti.

Valotti-Young is Young's transposition of Valotti from "C-centered" to "G-centered."

Young is Young, and a different temperament from Valotti and Valotti-Young. Jorgensen calls Young's temperament "Representative 18th Century Well-temperament."

Young is a "mathematically smoother" than Valotti, and was probably a theoretical invention of Young, a physisist who did not tune.  Jorgensen "idealizes" Young to give a mathematically smooth progession of cents tempering of thirds from C-E to Gb-Bb/F#-A#. Personally, I wonder if 18th century tuners were so worried about cents progressions (since the term cents had not yet been invented!)

When I was using them on piano, I felt Valotti was more fun than Young. My thought was that Goldberg would rest well in the relatively quiet CE, GB, DF# thirds of the transposed Valotti

Look them up in Jorgensen's _Tuning_ for descriptions, tables of offsets and diagrams.

Ed Sutton
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Bilson likes Valotti. (or Young)  I've never tuned to Young.  How different are they?

Paul'


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Ed,
I concur with the Valotti-Young. Last semester we had Sr recitals one Goldberg and the other I don't immediately remember. Both were well "reviewed" by those in attendance.   (Martin double w double transposing)

Gerry Cousins
West Chester University of PA
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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:33:00 -0400
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Goldberg stays pretty close to G major. You might try Jorgensen's "Valotti-Young" well-temperament, which is Valotti transposed to center on G. This would generally give "repose" on G major and "spice" at the edges.

Ed Sutton
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All,

Our harpsichord professor and students will be performing the Goldberg Variations on our harpsichords next month. She wants a well temperament that works for the Goldbergs. I have been tuning the Bach/Lehman but she does not particularly like it this work. There is some time to experiment with various temperaments but I though it might be helpful to query this list for some suggestions?

Thanks!
Don

Donald McKechnie
Piano Technician
Ithaca College
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