[CAUT] Too tall!!??

[Paul T Williams]

hey Jeff..I'm strictly aural, so your message, though helpful to some, is 
all Greek to me.  Someday, I'll fall to the great gadgets out there.

thanks
Paul




From:
"Jeff Tanner" <tannertuner at bellsouth.net>
To:
<caut at ptg.org>
Date:
04/09/2010 01:43 PM
Subject:
Re: [CAUT] Too tall!!??



Hi Paul,
Been out of town, so I know I'm coming in late on this. If you have SAT 
III (I don't know about IV), you can also experiment with the library 
tunings for these two pianos, and not just a new FAC. Those would be pages 
135 (B) and 138 (D). The tunings that come from the factory were 
calculated with the old mathematical curve used by SAT II, and you get 
very different results -- usually less stretched -- than with a new FAC.
 
Another option is to use the F4 tuning function, which only calculates 
from C3-F6, then match the bass and high treble aurally, or however you'd 
like, and quite often your FAC will even work just fine. Good chance that 
F4 of both pianos has a similar F4 stretch, but I don't have any handy to 
check right now.  I often prefer the temperament of the middle of the 
piano when I just use the F4 temperament, and because the partials change 
at F#, rather than at the Cs, you're at the fundamental at F#5-B5, which 
clears up the lights considerably through that section.
 
Other than these additional thoughts, I agree mostly with just tuning them 
to their FACs and not worrying about it.  Too much experience with expert 
musicians who can't hear the difference to worry about a cent or two that 
only we will notice. I once did 6 Baldwin Hamiltons together for a 
performance, that there wasn't time to actually syncronize their tuning 
for. I thought they sounded horrible, but I was out of time. All I heard 
were accolades about that.
 
Jeff Tanner
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Paul T Williams 
To: CAUTlist 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 5:24 PM
Subject: [CAUT] Too tall!!??

Hi all. 

this is a new one for me.  The Liszt Fest has started here at UNL through 
Saturday.  I just got a message from the stage manager. The pianists say 
the piano is too tall! It's on a piano truck.  What would I have them 
do....saw off a 1/2" of the legs? (LOL)   I'm thinking a half inch base 
under the lyre and bench (although it's adjustable) and paint them black. 

Also, on another note; How do you all like to tune two pianos together? 
One venue has a Baldwin D and Steinway D together, the other venue has a 
Steinway D and B to be tuned together on Friday (UGH!) I've done my usual 
for the 2 9'-ers but; Any tips on the 9' and 7' together would be great 
help.  I've never been happy with those two pianos together, but that's my 
only choice. 

Thanks 
Paul 

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