[CAUT] Too tall!!??

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Paul,


... and when you DO "fall to the great gadgets out there," consider that Cybertuner can take tunings for two different pianos and create a third, hybrid tuning that "reconciles" the two real tunings.  You can then use that virtual tuning as a basis for each individual piano, making adjustments by ear as you go so they will sound acceptably in tune to them selves.  The results are as good as can be gotten, IMHO.


Good luck!


Alan Eder





-----Original Message-----
From: Paul T Williams <pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu>
To: Jeff Tanner <tannertuner at bellsouth.net>; caut at ptg.org
Sent: Fri, Apr 9, 2010 12:24 pm
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Too tall!!??


hey Jeff..I'm strictly aural, so your message,though helpful to some, is all Greek to me.  Someday, I'll fall tothe great gadgets out there.

thanks
Paul





From:
"Jeff Tanner" <tannertuner at bellsouth.net>

To:
<caut at ptg.org>

Date:
04/09/2010 01:43 PM

Subject:
Re: [CAUT] Too tall!!??






Hi Paul,
Been out of town, so I know I'm coming inlate on this. If you have SAT III (I don't know about IV), you can alsoexperiment with the library tunings for these two pianos, and not justa new FAC. Those would be pages 135 (B) and 138 (D). The tunings that comefrom the factory were calculated with the old mathematical curve used bySAT II, and you get very different results -- usually less stretched --than with a new FAC.
 
Another option is to use the F4 tuning function,which only calculates from C3-F6, then match the bass and high treble aurally,or however you'd like, and quite often your FAC will even work just fine.Good chance that F4 of both pianos has a similar F4 stretch, but I don'thave any handy to check right now.  I often prefer the temperamentof the middle of the piano when I just use the F4 temperament, and becausethe partials change at F#, rather than at the Cs, you're at the fundamentalat F#5-B5, which clears up the lights considerably through that section.
 
Other than these additional thoughts, I agreemostly with just tuning them to their FACs and not worrying about it.  Toomuch experience with expert musicians who can't hear the difference toworry about a cent or two that only we will notice. I once did 6 BaldwinHamiltons together for a performance, that there wasn't time to actuallysyncronize their tuning for. I thought they sounded horrible, but I wasout of time. All I heard were accolades about that.
 
Jeff Tanner
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: PaulT Williams 
To: CAUTlist
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 5:24 PM
Subject: [CAUT] Too tall!!??

Hi all. 

this is a new one for me.  The Liszt Fest has started here at UNLthrough Saturday.  I just got a message from the stage manager. Thepianists say the piano is too tall! It's on a piano truck.  What wouldI have them do....saw off a 1/2" of the legs? (LOL)   I'm thinkinga half inch base under the lyre and bench (although it's adjustable) andpaint them black. 

Also, on another note; How do you all like to tune two pianos together? One venue has a Baldwin D and Steinway D together, the other venuehas a Steinway D and B to be tuned together on Friday (UGH!) I've donemy usual for the 2 9'-ers but; Any tips on the 9' and 7' together wouldbe great help.  I've never been happy with those two pianos together,but that's my only choice. 

Thanks 
Paul 


 
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