Thanks Bill. That answered some of my questions also. dennis. _________ On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 1:36 AM, <Bdshull at aol.com> wrote: > Hi, Jeff, > > Your last few posts lead me to think you are not familiar with the CAUT > Endorsement proposal requirements, and it might be that others have this > same misperception too. It would be easy, if one is to just > read Regulations and Codes Article IV, to come to the conclusion that the > CAUT Endorsement might only be attained by attending the CAUT Academy > courses and taking the 4 written tests. However, this is a mis-read of the > proposal. The core of the proposal is in bylaws. If you don't have the > May supplement you may go to the PTG Page members area, and follow the links > - resources, forms and documents, Council 2010, Organizational/LRP: > > > http://www.ptg.org/members/docs/2010/2010_Council_Agenda_Section_4-Organizational-LRP.pdf > > The only requirements in order to obtain this endorsement are that one be a > Registered Piano Technician, and that one pass a written test on > CAUT-related subjects. The CAUT Endorsement is designed like a > certification, similar to the RPT; preparation for it is not proscribed > but a CAUT Academy is offered with comprehensive curriculum. This > is similar to the RPT itself, where a variety of paths or combination > thereof can lead to the CAUT Endorsement - trade schools, apprenticeships, > the Randy Potter course, the PACE lessons. > > A CAUT Academy curriculum will be developed and offered, and each segment > will be followed by written tests. This road to the CAUT Endorsement will > be an incredible opportunity to master the knowledge and skills needed for > college and university work. However, there are no proscribed courses to > obtain the CAUT Endorsement in this proposal. > > I would expect that all of the excellent training programs - the Theodore > Steinway Seminars, the Little Red Schoolhouse, etc, that you've referred > to could be of use in preparing for the CAUT Endorsement, as they address > many of the skills required in the college and university setting. These > courses are limited in their applicant pool, while the PTG does not, and can > not place anti-competitive restrictions on its certifications. Further, > the CAUT Academy curriculum would be CAUT-comprehensive in nature, unlike > anything else available. > > I would also expect that the CAUT Academy, specifically tailored to the > college setting - and not manufacturer-specific - would be an ideal > preparation for College and University work, as it will be taught by leading > technicians in the field. > > The time may come when the PTG community would approve of additional > testing beyond a written test, but the development of skills tests is a > large project. Testing must meet a number of standards, and a process of > beta-testing would also be required. Needless to say this has been the > subject of considerable discussion in the committee, as well as in > conversations with the board and bylaws. It was felt that this approach > to CAUT Endorsement requirements would not be onerous or unachievable by > qualified members (RPTs). > > The CAUT Endorsement testing would also provide the candidate with an > assessment of areas needing further training or education. But there are > only these two requirements - RPT status and the passing of a written test. > > I hope that you might see that this might satisfy your concerns. Some have > considered this a "watered-down" and ineffective proposal, but your > arguments actually make the case for the proposal as it is presented, not > onerous, not complex, not unattainable, but still a reflection of a > commitment to a certain knowledge base, as well as a commitment to continued > growth and participation in the CAUT community. > > The curriculum component of this endorsement is voluntary. Even if the > applicant doesn't attend the CAUT Academy, the curriculum is important in > that it defines the skills and knowledge base needed for CAUT piano service, > and should be an excellent source of CAUT-specific training and education. > Anyone who hasn't studied the proposal should look over the curriculum ; > they will see the wide range of areas the CAUT technician works in. At > present it is only summarized in "regulations" as: > > The CAUT Workplace: Administrative topics. > Concert Tuning and Preparations. > Historic instrument Tuning and Maintenance > Special Topics in Servicing Institutional Instruments > > A detailed outline of this curriculum title "Components of Endorsement" was > provided last year to council, and I expect that similar supporting > documentation in the form of of a beta Policy Handbook with a fleshed-out > curriculum will be provided this year, too. > > Regards, > > Bill > > Bill Shull, RPT, M.Mus. > CAUT Committee Member > > > In a message dated 5/12/2010 3:23:35 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > tannertuner at bellsouth.net writes: > > Yes, a certificate of merit from CAUT. Not a doctoral degree in every > conceivable facet of the trade plus tangents into other trades. If nothing > else, schools might also encourage their tech to attend Yamaha and Steinway > > training seminars, which the CAUT degree would not, could not recognize. > And > since there is no way for a CAUT endorsement to recognize other training > programs considered highly respected and viable by university faculties and > > performing artists, it renders the PTG CAUT endorsement uncredible. > Jeff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey at sbcglobal.net> > To: <tannertuner at bellsouth.net> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:32 PM > Subject: Re: [CAUT] Preaching to the choir;was University of Idaho Piano > Tech Vacancy > > > > If schools want to do on the job training, that's what they'll do. They > > > do need to be aware of the talent pool out there and a certificate of > > merit from CAUT could start their education. PTG/CAUT needs to be > > bombarding music departments with this info. If nothing else, schools > > might require their tech to attend classes with PTG... > > > > David Ilvedson, RPT > > Pacifica, CA 94044 > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/caut.php/attachments/20100513/0fc5f7c9/attachment.htm>
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