[CAUT] CAUT endorsement

[Ed Sutton]

Jeff,

What exactly do you propose that PTG must do to solve this problem which you 
perceive?

Ed S.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Tanner" <tannertuner at bellsouth.net>
To: <caut at ptg.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [CAUT] CAUT endorsement


> Yes, William, I agree.
>
> But that's not the point.
>
> The point of my post was that as long as PTG classes teach other ways of 
> rebuilding and maintaining Steinways, any endorsement by PTG of membership 
> will not be respected by those who are on board with the All-Steinway 
> philosophy. It was not intended at all to be a criticism of other ways of 
> doing things. And yes, I agree that Steinway learns from those in the 
> field who are implementing cutting edge ideas.
>
> My post was about whether or not a PTG endorsement will hold water with 
> university faculties who prefer Steinway Steinways.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Nossaman" <rnossaman at cox.net>
> To: <caut at ptg.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 11:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [CAUT] CAUT endorsement
>
>
>> William Monroe wrote:
>>> I think it's fair to say that every manufacturer gets their due. 
>>> Whether on CAUT or Pianotech, many (if not all) of the major 
>>> manufacturers have had shots taken at them.  Yamaha certainly, 
>>> particularly when it comes to their small grands, and I'm sure a search 
>>> would bring up many others, including Bosey, Kawai, Baldwin, etc.  And, 
>>> while there are undoubtedly more than just Eric Schandall at NY who may 
>>> not call Steinway "the best," "the world standard," or other such lofty 
>>> title, there are many that do And, when you do, you can expect to be 
>>> held to that when something is substandard, particularly if its chronic.
>>>  In addition, I don't know of any PTG sponsored classes on maintenance 
>>> or rebuilding instruction on ANY particular brand "as is taught by" that 
>>> brands reps.  Yamaha sends their reps, Kawai too.  The bulk of the 
>>> general class offerings are just that, general.  We're exploring all the 
>>> techniques out there for rebuilding, regulation, maintenance, etc., 
>>> applicable to whatever piano you see fit.  I think this is more a 
>>> symptom of the fact that S&S are among the very few brands that are 
>>> profitable to rebuild.  If we could all spec rebuild Yamaha's and sell 
>>> them for a profit, you'd see these techniques applied there as well. 
>>> Don't you agree?  Similarly not suggested as better/worse or with any 
>>> disrespect.
>>
>> Very nicely stated. Thank you.
>> Ron N
>