[CAUT] Steinway sound

Jeannie Grassi jcgrassi at earthlink.net
Mon Mar 7 12:22:06 MST 2011


And I heard a Steinway salesman who was attempting to sell an 1890s K with all, I mean all, original parts say,   "Now that's the true Steinway touch!"
Just sayin..... : :>)

jeannie

On Feb 28, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Ed Sutton wrote:

> For what it's worth, here is another question:
>  
> David Stanwood's Touchweight Metrology formulas (ca. 1995) have brought about a revolution (or evolutionary change) in action rebuilding, including, I think it's fair to say, a small cottage industry in redesigning Steinway actions.
>  
> Is anyone complaining that these instruments "Don't have the Steinway touch?"
>  
> (I have heard a Steinway trained salesman say "If you want the Steinway touch, you've got to have a genuine Steinway!")
>  
> Ed Sutton
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dale Erwin
> To: caut at ptg.org
> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 10:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [CAUT] Steinway sound
> 
>    I'm good with this statement Horace. 
>   In my own practice I have been trying in most cases to not deviate to far from the core tonal expectations for several reasons.
> 1.  I like the basic Steinway sound at its best, & so do many ears
> 2. I'm conservative with my clients pianos again trying to enhance the best components of the tone.
> 3. Redesigning the piano too much can influence its marketability in the minds of some.  For others they would find it a plus to own a Hot Rod so to speak. Hey, different strokes.
> 
>  I personally prefer to judge the piano by its sound not the design. That is..... what pianist do. They don't look under the hood. 
>   Heres the question. What constitutes a redesign?  Most guys out in small shops are not compression crowning there boards but  crowning the ribs to some degree to support crown. Drying the board far less. Neither is a Steinway parameter. This is our primary deviation. Do these pianos sound like Steinways? It doesn't matter what I think if the client likes them.
>  
> So here is an opportunity to see my The Erwin & Sons Re- manufactured 1930s Steinway B Hot Rod on display if you'll are coming to the WEST-PACS. in S.F. next week.  It will be there in the hall and in the Ronsen Class room.
>   Dale 
> 
>  
> > 
> > In any event, I very much like Brent's concept of complimenting > whatever design might exist "without alienating the core tonal > expectations..."; and working in smaller venues while new designs > are tested more thoroughly to see what does and does not stand up > to performance needs and expectations. That is a very wide field > of tone and response to explore, with tremendous room for > variation; and, as Brent notes, no one's career or reputation winds > up on the line. 
> > 
> > Developing things along these kinds of lines sounds to me like > everyone wins...and that qualifies as a Very Good Thing. 
> > 
> > Best. 
> > 
> > Horace 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 

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