1870 Steinway vertical reply

pianoman pianoman@inlink.com
Sun, 12 Oct 1997 19:18:49 -0500


Dear Les,
Reading your reply was like reading a book that you couldn't put down til
you finished.  A fantastic response.  I am glad you are on this list.
James Grebe
R.P.T. from St. Louis
pianoman@inlink.com
"Take me through the darkness to the break of the day"

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> From: Les Smith <lessmith@buffnet.net>
> To: pianotech@ptg.org
> Subject: Re: 1870 Steinway vertical
> Date: Sunday, October 12, 1997 3:56 PM
> 
> WARNING! tHIS IS A LONG, RAMBLING, QUASI-TECHNICAL POST ON ANCIENT
> STEINWAY VERTICALS. IF YOU ALREADY KNOW THE STORY, OR EVEN IF YOU 
> DON'T, YOU'LL PROBABLY BE BORED. YOU'VE BEEN WARNED! HERE GOES.--LES 
> On Wed, 8 Oct 1997 NBWW@aol.com wrote:
> 
> > Hi all. 
> > This is a new experience for me. The thrill of a new adventure! My
palms a
> > sweating! I  am a new comer to the computer and the internet. Heard
about
> > this from other techs.
> > I'm restoring an 1870 Steinway vertical and need 6 original butts and 6
> > original wippens. I'm  just doing the action and trapwork at this time.
 
> > Restringing to follow as the budget allows.
> 
> Since no one else jumped on this, I say a few (okay, more than a few!)
> words about this. First, however, if you've never worked on one of these
> before, it might be a good idea to slip into you BROWN corduroys, first.
> You'll see why in a minute.
> 
> Historical perspective. Your piano was built in 1870. It wouldn't be
until
> six years LATER that a brash young army general and his men would be im-
> mortalized in a losing stand against the Souix Indians on a battlefield
> at the Little Bighorn River in Montana. The same year that Custer and his
> men perished, the US was celebrating its Centennial in Philadelphia. Part
> of that included a huge piano exhibition in which the newly redesigned
in-
> struments--including a stunning new concert grand-- of Ernest Knabe from
> Baltimore would make the piano world sit up and take notice. Unfortunate-
> ly Knabe's moment in the sun would last just twenty years. When Ernest
> died in 1894, Knabe's future died, too. From there it was all down hill.
> Never again would they be a "contender". Yet I imagine that when Ernest
> died, even Steinway breathed a sigh of relief. His pianos were THAT good.

> Finally, at that same exhibition, a young inventor named Bell showed off
> an invention for the first time that would  literally change the world,
> the telephone. The piano you're talking about repairing/restoring  was  
> made BEFORE these long-distant events took place. It has outlived not
only
> its makers and original owners, but Custer and Bell and Knabe and the
> many generations who came after them, too. Quite, frankly, that impresses
> me. A lot. It should impress you, too.
> 
> Whenever I open up one of these relics from days long passed, and look
> inside I feel something like  the  hushed  reverence I feel  when I
> walk into a church. I feel in the presence of something very special,
> very rare, and utterly without peer today. Pull off the bottom board.
> Down near the bottom of the plate, you'll find the date it was cast by
> Steinway. It'll read something like 25/3/80, using the old day/month/
> year format. When you look inside the piano from the top you'll see
> something unique: hammers, butts, damper-levers, wippens, keys, dowel-
> capstans, tubular-metal action rails, "signature" Steinway flanges,
> strings, felts, case parts, etc., etc., all not merely ASSEMBLED by
> Steinway, but BUILT by them too. Parts which could be found in no other
> piano made, only Steinway. Wow! And here it is, 127 years later, still
> functional enough that we're talking about repairing/restoring it to
> see if maybe we can maybe coax another century or so out of it. In-
> credible.
> 
> In 1870, when that piano was built, Steinway had been manufacturing
> pianos here in the states for less than 20 years. The pre-eminent piano
> in America was still Chickering, but Steinway already had them clearly
> in their sights. In the Chickering factories, the worker's mantra was
> "We're number one, we're number one! In Steinway's factories the mantra
> was "Kill Chickering, Kill Chickering"! To this end Steinway spared no
> expense, never compromised quality in favor of corporate expediency.In
> the days long before the bean-counters, the clock-watchers, and the ef-
> ficiency experts made their appearance, Steinway set out to build the
> finest piano in the world, no matter what the expense. They succeeded.
> You're looking at one. And the reason why, a few short years later, it
> was the workers in Steinways factories who were jubilantly chanting
> "We're number one, We're number one". Meanwhile, back at Chickering,
> everyone had been reduced to puzzling "Hey, what happened? Hey, what
> happened?" Steinway was what had happened. Chickering would never re-
> cover, neither would anyone else. Since the day Steinway overtook
> Chickering, there have only been two piano manufacturers in the US:
> Steinway and everyone else. And that's why that ancient 1870 Steinway
> upright you'e looking at deserves both your respect and the very best
> work you're capable of doing. Nothing less!
> 
> Now, here's where those brown corduroy's come in. You said "right now   
> I'm just doing the action-work." JUST. Kind of reminds me of when the
> captain of the Titanic said to his first officer, "Wow, look at the
> size of that iceberg over there! Swing her closer so I can get a bet-
> ter look! :) Here's why.
> 
> First of all, I assume that this piano has a seven octave span, a 3/4
> plate and an open-faced pinblock, right? That really wasn't that hard
> because back then they all did. However, can you identify the model of
> this Steinway? Is it an "E", or an "F", or perhaps a N, O, L, R,T, X, 
> H, or S ? Relax, I'm pulling your chain, it'll be either an E or an
> F. The difference? Four inches. The E is 48" tall, the F is 52" tall.
> Knowing the model is important. You'll see why.
> 
> Despite the fact that Steinway upright actions of this vintage are 
> among the best engineered and executed ever made, after more than a
> century it is probable that serious action problems exist with this
> piano. These problems fall into two major catagories and are com-
> pounded by the fact that replacement action parts haven't been avail-
> able from Steinway itself FOR DECADES. Oh-oh! The next time you'er work-
> ing on a relatively modern Steinway upright look inside and try to
> find those "tubular-metal action rails" and those snazzy "signature"
> Steinway flanges. Hey, they're missing! And so are the butts, damper-  
> levers, wippens and countless other parts that used to make Steinway a
> Steinway. Why? Maybe they weren't so well designed in the first place,
> huh? Right. And maybe if you wait up Christmas eve you might see Santa
> slide down the chimney, too! 
>   
> The two most common action problems encountered on these old Steinways
> are action parts are so worn out from use that they can no longer be
> salvaged, or else the presence of an action-killer clalled "Verdigris",
> or, simply, "The Greenies." Both are major headaches. You must deter-
> mine the condition of the action before you can possibly give an esti-
> mate for making it functional again. If you have ALREADY given an esti-
> mate, without examining the action closely, you're dead. Consider mov-
> ing out of town and changing your name annd phone number.No kidding.
> 
> Assuming that you're still alive here, pull the action. Warning: you
> better own an action cradle! If you try to set the action on your bench
> it will promptly fall over, undoubtedly breaking numerous fragile parts,
> causing you to have to raise you estimate considerably. OK, it's in the
> action cradle. Now what? Put your finger on the back of each hammer and
> GENTLY wiggle it from side to side. Try the same thing with the wippens,
> and then--gulp--the damper levers. Chances are that you are going to
> find an extreme amout of side-to-side play in the hammers and wippens
> indicating severely worn action centers. Worse you're certain to find
> excessive play in the damper levers. Loosen the little retaining plate
> on one, remove it and take a close look at it. See that little groove
> in the lever that holds and squares the lever to the centerpin? See
> how it's worn so badly that the lever rubs against it neighbors and
> in the process misses one or two of the strings it's supposed to dam-
> pen. If so, you've got the "Old Steinway Damper-Lever Blues!" A killer
> to fix unless you can find exact replacements. LOTS O' LUCK. You see,
> those damper levers are unlike any others you've ever seen, or will
> ever see again unless you do another Steinway upright of similar vintage.
  
> I'll explain in a minute.
> 
> Now's as good a time as any to get the rest of the bad news. You know
> how modern uprights use damper spoons to lift the dampers when the key
> is depressed? SURPRISE! Your 1970 Steinway doesn't have damper spoons
> at all. Take a look at the back of the wippen. He,he,he. Instead of a
> spoon you find a wooden flange into which is inserted an adjusting screw
> which is accessed by a HOLE in the BOTTOM of the damper lever! You know,
> the ones that are worn so bad you can't reuse them. So if you want to re-
> tain the integrity of the action, your're going to have to come up with
> similar wippens and damper levers. These, as you may have already
assumed,
> are not readily-available, over-the-counter items. For that matter, you
> can't even get them UNDER-the-counter, unless you're lucky anough to find
> another tech who's "parting out" an old action.It happens. Sometimes. IF 

> you're lucky. Are you feeling "lucky" so far? Stick with me. More good
> news follows. :)
> 
> Verdigris. The "greenies". The action-killer. Push the hammer rail for-
> ward until all the hammer are touching the strings. Release the hammer
> rail. Do all the hammer quickly return to their rest position, or do they
> just seem to float back there in slow motion, or maybe not even get all
> the way back at all? Try the jacks. Push down on the heel of each one
with
> a thin bladed screwdriver, then release it quickly. Does it pop back
> smartly to its rest position, or does it, too, seemingly move in slow
> motion. Remove a hammer and its flange from the high treble where there
> are no dampers. look at the side of the flange. Can you see the felt
> bushing and the end of the centerpin, or are they covered with a dark-
> green waxy substance?  Lastly, look at the underside of the flange, More
> green stuff? Sluggish action centers and the presence of Verdegris, mean
> that you have big-time problems brewing. And you were worried about those
> damper levers!
> 
> Stick with me. I won't beat up on you TOO much longer. Question: Have you
> ever made a hammer spring rail? You know, fabricated one from scratch?
> Get ready. In something this old it is probable that the hammer springs
> are shot--too weak to do the job, even once you have the action centers
> working freely, and so brittle that they'll break when you try to bend
> them. And don't even think about using those "broken hammer spring
repair"
> do-dads sold by the supply houses. I once saw a Steinway were the tech
had
> installed 88 of those babies IN ADDITION to the original springs. 176
> springs, 2 per hammer, PLUS about a quart of WD-40 (another no-no) and
the
> recalcitrant hammers still just ever-so-slowly " moseyed" back to their
> rest positions. A new hammer rail is a distinct possibility.
> 
> I COULD go on and on, but I won't. Enough. Probably more than enough, but
> you get the idea. THOROUGHLY check out the action in your piano, look-
> ing for the problems I mentioned above and you'll have a much better idea
> of what you're up against. Pianotech includes some of the finest techni-
> cians not just in the country, but in the world. When you post back
> they'll be able to guide you  through the intricacies of fabricating a
> hammer-spring rail, dealing with Verdigris, rebushing old flanges,
> salvaging old action parts, or adapting new ones to your needs, and the
> zillion other problems you're likely to run into when working on that old
> dinosaur.
> 
> Early on, you'll discover that one approach to severely worn action parts
> and extensive Verdigris is to replace ALL the action parts with new ones.
> Genuine Steinway replacement parts have't been avaiable from Steinway,
> itself, for DECADES, however, new "knock-off" replacewments ARE available

> from a couple of places, Wally B and Japan (!) for two. That's the good
> news. The bad news is the price. Astronomical, relatively speaking, even
> at the wholesale level. So keep those brown cords handy when checking the
> cost of rebuilding the entire action with new parts. And keep a pair in
> reserve for the piano's owner when you give him the estimate. There IS a
> bright side to this approach, however. Since this is a 7 octave piano,
> you're only going to need 85 of everything instead of 88! :)
> 
> You're also going to run into technicians who will advise you to "junk
> that clunk". They'll tell you that because of all the problems I outlined
> above--PLUS all the others I didn't even tell you about!-- the piano is
> just not worth the time and expense that it would take to salvage it and
> that the money would be best used if it were applied to a new piano. They
> will recommend that YOU part out the action to others dumb enough to try
> to save one of these worn-out relics of the past and then smash the case
> to smithereens, use it as kindling in your fireplace and roast weenies
> over the blaze. A lot of techs support this position. As a matter of
fact,
> I would guess that if old Jonas Chickering and his sons were alive today
> and on-line with Pianotech, they would readily volunteer their services
> to any tech contemplating such a course of action. I'm equally sure that
> not only would they bring their own chain saws and sledge hammers, but
> that they'd bring the weenies, too!
> 
> I would suggest approaching this piano as a learning experience. You're
> not only going to learn a lot about old Steinways, you're going to learn
> something about yourself as well. Further, if you persevere, if you
> stick with it, if you go on to do other old Steinways, you may in time
> come to appreciate why, against competition such as this, Chickering
never
> really had a chance. No chance at all.
> 
> Best of luck. Enjoy the experience!
> 
> Les Smith
> lessmith@buffnet.net  
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