>Ron et al, > >I have tried treating some suspected bridge "softies" with saturations of CA >glue. I tried removing bridge pins and not rmoving bridge pins. Results >seemed somewhat mixed, but I would say that a great many wild or false >beating strings were reduced to whispers or cleared up entirely. Of course, >before trying this on a new piano I believe it would be prudent to get the >manufacturer's approval, possible in writing before trying that method. I >also think other areas of string termination should be well checked out >first, such as poor or kinked wire, clean notches and good placement of >bridge pins to the notch, cleanly defined capo bar termination and listening >for sympathetic string vibration problems from other areas of the piano. I >also believe that you should proceed with a good tuning first before >deciding on a course of action, as many mysterious wild strings will be >adequately masked upon close coupling of the unison. I guess we're running >out of 300 year old rock maple trees with close grain characteristics. >Synthetics anyone? > >Just my two cent's worth. > >Joseph Alkana > By all means, contact the manufacturer, but do it *after* you have done the screwdriver test and verified that the noises are the result of loose bridge pins. If the screwdriver test has no affect, it's not loose pins. Always start with the high probability, quick, easy, and non destructive tests first and work out from there until you find the problem. When you find a cause - stop. Check for loose pins before tapping any strings down. Seating strings on loose bridge pins will often seem to improve the sound, but it's a temporary improvement, and not a "fix", because it masks the symptoms without correcting the real problem. Also, if you have done *anything* else to the piano except verifying loose bridge pins, you will never get a manufacturer to acknowledge the problem. You probably won't get any manufacturer to admit even the possibility no matter how much evidence you have anyway, but why make it easy on them? %-) They will *always* recommend seating the strings on the bridge because it usually does help temporarily, and postpones the issue. All bridge pins in all new wooden bridges will eventually loosen as wood fibers are distorted and crushed by dimensional changes with humidity shifts. Bridges aren't any different in this regard than soundboards and action parts. The harder the cap material, the tighter the assembly tolerances, and the narrower the humidity swings suffered since assembly, the tighter the pins will be on delivery to the customer. A pin that was driven into a less than tight hole in a too soft bridge cap, and suffering a couple of 50% RH swings (under string tension) before final delivery, will have loose bridge pins and wild strings. It's normally only a problem through octave 5 and 6 as the bearing usually increases in the extreme treble to the point where the string is anchored to the bridge surface firmly enough that the loose pin doesn't have much effect. Below octave 5, either the string mass is too high, or the frequencies are too low (I'm not sure which), for loose pins to have a detrimental affect. That's my take. Ron
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