VTD's

[Don]

Hi All,

What *hogwash*. A VTD or ETD used properly will only serve to create a
quicker learning curve. As to stability, perhaps Mr. Mohr might not
consider a pitch drift of .48 cents at A4 on a Yamaha C7 over a six month
time frame good stability, but I most certainly think it is acceptable.


At 11:34 PM 6/2/98 EDT, you wrote:
>In a message dated 98-05-30 01:52:55 EDT, you write:
>
><< 
> I tend to agree with Franz Mohr's assessment of the use of ETD's, at
least to
> a point.  He always said that he had never met a piano technician that used
>an
> ETD (and in his experience, that usually meant a Strobe Tuner) who could
> produce a stable tuning.  He stressed repeatedly in his lectures that a
>visual
> aid actually would distract the technician from developing a true feeling
and
> sensitivity for what is really required to tune a piano according to a high
> professional standard.  
> 
> In my own experience as an Examiner, I have seen it happen far too often for
> my own comfort, not to mention the humiliation that the Examinee must feel,
> that a user of an ETD creates a very passable tuning, only to show
afterwards
> that he/she has little idea of what really sounds correct and what does not.
> The ability to perceive and create that which is correct entirely by ear is
> the only skill that merits the use of the title, RPT.
> 
> Bill Bremmer RPT
> Madison, Wisconsin
> 
>
> I always have said, and I stand by it to this day, that individuals learning
>how to tune, should not have an ETD to use until he or she can pass an
exam at
>the RPT level.  This will according for Franz Mohr allow the feel and proper
>hearing that is necessary to please the ear.  After RPT is achieved, then an
>ETD is very helpful, but the ear is the final authority.
>
>I service my church piano once a month because of heavy use.  One time when
>many of the brethren were working on the stage while I was tuning, one
noticed
>that I was using a SAT.  I heard him say, "boy I can learn to tune with
that!"
>One playfully yelled to everyone in the auditorium and said "Dave's
cheating!"
>All kidding aside, I explained that my aural tuning is computed in the memory
>of my machine.  My years of experience is in this memorized tuning.  
>
>Pay your dues first, then let the ETD become your best friend, but not your
>crutch.
>
>Food for thought.
>
>Dave Peake, RPT
>Portland, OR
>
>
Regards,
Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.M.T., R.P.T.
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