In a message dated 98-10-01 12:22:12 EDT, you write: << It would seem to be that with two, or more, very capable ETDs that the results on the same piano, with the same technician, with the same temperament would be so close as to be unmeasurable, either as to "in tuneness", stability,, etc. except by the ETDs themselves. Since we don't listen to our pianos through the ETD while they are being played for music I hardly see the benefit to be gained herein. The comparison here would be similar to two boards being joined together with two brass screws, one having a bright finish and one having a brushed finish and then discussing which screw is doing the best job of holding the board together. But then I am a recovering aural tuner and don't know what I know about ETDs :-) Jim Bryant (FL) >> Jim has a good point here. However, I think what Jim Sr. was trying to accomplish is more than just to see which ETD can tune better, and which piano will give the best results, etc. Comparing TUNE OFF's to two board screwed together would like comparing Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa having a home run contest. One person hitting a home run is not exciting, unless there is excitement in the game. There were times when McGwire hit a home run, but the Cardinal lost. The home run was exciting, but the players didn't celebrate. And Mark hit 70 home runs in one year, which was very exciting, but the Cardinals didn't make the playoffs. It was great he did what he did, but the team didn't play so good, so the celebration ended too soon. How does this campare to a piano tuning contest. If we just tuned two pianes with and ETD, and let it go at that, there would not be any excitment. But if we did it under extreme situations, like prepareing for an evaluation by other tuners, or by other ETD's, then it adds excitiment to the "game". And it would be even more exciting, if there were rewards for doing the best job. Then the clelebration could continue. If we are to get enjoyment out of work, then we need to find more exciting ways to make our work enjoyable. I think a tune off, on different levels, is one way to make our profession more enjoyable. But just like professional sports, not everyone has the ability to compete on the top levels. However, everyone enjoys participating on their own level, or watching the game being played. So, let the games begin. Who's got the ball? Wim
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