Hi all, As I see it, the moment of inertia figured from the balance rail has very little to do with anything other than the total distance the weight travels when the key is depressed, *unless* you also consider how far from the balance rail pin the force is applied. You are not only dealing with an inertial moment arm, you're dealing with a simple lever that is increasing, or decreasing the inertial effect depending on where the force is being applied. From the input side (key), the leverage against the inertial mass of a keyweight is *worst* directly under the finger. At that point, it's a 1/1 correspondence of force input against inertia. That's as bad as it can get for the downstroke. As the weight is moved back toward the pivot, the effective inertial resistance at the point of input (finger) is a function of the proportion of the distance between finger and balance pin, and weight and balance pin. You get a mechanical advantage on the power stroke that increases as the weight is moved back. On the back side of the key, the capstan is the input for the key return stroke and the same proportional inertial relationship exists there between capstan - pin, and pin - weight... except for one thing. It's possible to have weight(s) farther from the pin than the capstan is, which puts the capstan at a worse than 1/1 leverage ratio. Putting more weight anywhere in a key forward of the balance pin will slow down repetition, but may lighten touch weight, up to the point where there is too much weight and you have an inertia problem. I would think the better option would be to lighten the hammers, optimize action geometry, and keep the whole action from fingertip to hammer strike point as light as is reasonably practical. Thrill me, I can use all the education I can get. Ron : >Here's a question: > > Recently, I published an article on grand piano action diagnosis, and one of the conclusions I came to was re-balancing keys with many 1/2" leads per key. Basically I remove larger leads near the balance rail and insert smaller leads near the end of the key. This seems to make the actions feel inertially lighter, and there is less 'thumping' from heavy keys on balance rails. > > However, it was brought to my attention that (I quote here) > >"When the key is moving the "moment" of inertia becomes much more important. Unfortunately it is affected by the distance from the balance rail by a factor of R squared. This means a lead weight 2 cm from the rail might have a moment of inertia of 1, but that if the weight is 4 cm from the rail the moment of inertia will be 4, 6 cm = 9 and 8 cm = 16!" > >This all makes sense. However, when I played the piano with 5 1/2" leads per key, it felt heavy to play, despite the 55 downweight 30 upweight average. With lead removed from near the balance rail and 3/8" lead inserted farther away to balance the key to original weigh-off, the action wasn't as hard on my forearms to play for long periods. > >Mathematically, it seems that the smaller leads further from the balance rail would result in the same inertia as the larger leads, but my arms don't get tired playing! > >Any ideas? > > > >Rob Kiddell, >Registered Piano Technician, PTG >atonal@telusplanet.net > >"Windows NT crash >I am the blue screen of death >no one hears you scream" > >-Windows haiku error message > > Ron
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