who's ruining the list?

[Elian Degen]

Carl,

You have a good point there, but remember we are, I don´t know the exact
number, but several hundred people on the list, with different, opinions,
different criteria, and very difficult to agree, I would say for so many
people almost impossible a total agreement, besides, this kind of subjects
have been discussed earlier, and here we are again.

I propose, for a serious discussion, first it would be important to point
out to all the list, that everyone can give his opinion, but appart from
that to try to make it non personal, try not to feel ofended by any coment,
and try not to be offensive, after all we are all in the same line of
business, we have learned a lot from each other, and trying to keep doing
the same. Everyone has an opinion and maybe could think that the other one
is wrong, or messed up, but that is not an excuse for being offensive. I
still think that everything can be worked out in a civilized manner

Elian Degen


-----Mensaje original-----
De: Carl Root <rootfamily@erols.com>
Para: pianotech@ptg.org <pianotech@ptg.org>
Fecha: Jueves, 29 de Octubre de 1998 01:05 a.m.
Asunto: who's ruining the list?


>Just for fun, let's see if we can eliminate one-line responses for 24
>hours. :-)
>You know.  The ones that say 'I disagree' or 'right on!'  They're a
>waste of bandwidth because THEY DON'T ADD ANYTHING MEANINGFUL TO THE
>DISCUSSION.
>
>
>Everyone is focused on Bill right now.  This is because he manages to
>pack a lot of offensive material into a post and then follows with more
>of the same as he defends himself against the many list members who
>can't wait to attack him again.
>
>I DID say that too many HT posts constitute beating a dead horse, even
>if he's nice about it.  The same is true of any other pet subject that
>someone may try to weave into a completely unrelated topic on an
>all-too-frequent basis.  Please understand, however, that while I agree
>that Bill may have driven off a number of people all by himself, I am
>having trouble getting through to the rest of you the idea that there
>are a lot of other bad habits exhibited by many other posters that
>diminish the quality of this list to the point where I, too, am
>considering leaving until some major changes take place.
>
>Getting through all the non-technical, superfluous, 'me too',  stuff
>which does nothing to enrich my professional life is simply too time
>consuming.  If I'm going to set filters to eliminate all the posts from
>people who feel the need to post daily, I may as well quit.  That's too
>bad, because most of you do have something pertinent to contribute once
>in a while.  It's just that it's surrounded by all this drivel, for lack
>of better word.
>
>I don't think anyone is suggesting that only qualified piano technicians
>should post, but I do feel that the content of every post should be
>piano related and should be thought out before posting, rather than a
>quick reaction.  I don't think many of you believe me when I tell you
>that these off-topic posts would not be tolerated on many other lists
>out there, 'professional' or otherwise.
>
>For those of you who feel that anything goes, I ask:  "What would you
>consider to be a reasonable signal to noise ratio?" I'm serious.  How
>many well-thought-out knowledgable technical posts compared to how many
>posts that have little or no technical content.  Come up with a number
>and then keep track for 24 hours.  You may be surprised.
>
>
>Carl Root, RPT
>