In a message dated 98-10-30 09:08:38 EST, you write: << Hey, I haven't heard any comments on using SAT III. I know Wim sent his back for repair but have not heard how the new ones are working. Are they living up to expectations? I have found that once the SAT and RCT are here there is not a whole lot that can make them better although they can be made more convenient to use. I am waiting now for RCT 3.0 for my Mac, the 4th update to the program since last Oct, 25,98. I am just as excited as you guys getting the SAT III. James Grebe >> Jim & List: I got a replacement to use while mine is being "repaired". To say it needed repairs is not fair. It wasn't broken. It needed the automatic note switch installed. The one that I am using has that feature, and it works great. I have been thinking about writing a comparison between the RCT and the SATIII, so this is a good excuse. I don't own a RCT, but have heard enough about them, and used one a couple of times, to be able to give fairly accurate evaluation. For those who have both, feel free to disagree with me. First I want to point out that both machine are excellent. But I think that for the "basic user", technically there is very little difference between the SATIII and the RCT. If you are a more experienced user, you will find advantages of one over the other, but it is going to be the user, more than the machine, that will find the advantages of one over the other. I don't want to get into the more detailed differences, because I am not an experienced user, and I do not have the qualifications to do that. But there are some other differences that I want to mention. The main difference between the 2 units are this: 1. Weight. The SAT III weighs about 3 pounds, if that much, and measures 6" by 4" by 3.5" This allows the unit to fit easy in a breif case, or tool bag, with still plenty of room for other tools. The RCT has to be used with a lap top computer. The lightest weight lap top I could find in a catologue was 6.5 lbs., with most in the 7 - 10 lb range. Lap tops are 12" by 12", although I understand that some smaller ones are coming out. I also heard that those smaller ones are not as effective. When you flip up the top, it's 12" high. On most upright pianos, that might become a balancing act. In most grands, it might be easier to put the lap top on the struts, but you can't get it to close to the bass end. 2. Batery life. Before I sent my original SATIII back, I had tuned about 50 pianos. When I tune, the machine is turned on for about 15 - 20 minutes for each tuning. SO I had about 12 or 13 hours of use. Just before I sent it back, I checked the battery use feature, and it showed I had 100% battery life left. In other words, even after 12 hours of use, it hadn't even drained the batery enough to show I had 75% life left. That, to me, is amazing. When I was looking at the lap tops in a catologue, the longest use was about 5 hours, most had only 3 - 4 hours of battery life. I would say that that feature alone should make a big difference in using one machine over the other. 3. Automatic up note feature. Mitch and Jim Sr. went round and round on that feature before. One comment Mitch made was that he was able to have the RCT follow him "like a puppy dog" when he went down the scale to another note. I found that the same with the SAT III. The only place I am having difficulty is the very first couple of notes in the bass, and the last three of four notes in the treble. But then I was tuning a couple of cheap spinets and old grands, with very little quality of sound coming from those notes. 4. Eye wear. Someone mentioned this to me at the TSA. When you are looking at the screen of a RCT, you are looking at a computer screen. If you do this 4 or 5 hours a day, For most of us, that is going to be a strain on the eye. The SAT II has little lights going around in a circle. Not much eye strain there. 5. Durability. How many times have you dropped your SAT, and have it survive? One of our chapter members left hers sitting on top of her car when she drove off. It still worked after she picked it from the street. Can you do that with a lap top computer? Overall, I am happy with my SATIII. As I might have mentioned before, I needed a second unit, and for the extra couple of hundred dollars, I am satisfied. The only way I would have considered the RCT is if I had a lap top in which to install the program. I might consider doing that, if and when I get a lap top, but from what I described, the RCT is going to have to come up with a considerable more attractive reason for me to purchase it. All of this, of course, is my own opinion, and it should not be contrued as an endorsement for the SAT III or a condemnation of the RCT. As I said, technically, they are both equal. It all depends on who is using it to say which is better. And the bottom line for both machines, is that the user has to know what he/she is doing. In other words, neither machine will be of any use to someone who doesn't have the basic skills to tune a piano. Wim Blees
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