[Lost thread reply flood] {Was Gray Market Yamaha's and/or Oh no, back to piano records} [Harvey] >>Normally I don't buy into the crown and bearing thing, because I'm jaded by >>techs jumping on this bandwagon at the slightest provocation. [Nossaman] >*Whoa, hold it. Please to explain. You've got a dumb Yankee, or two (or is >it just me?), out here who have trouble following the conversation when we >can't see the lips move. Surely you routinely check such things as part of >your 'voicing/sound production complaint' diagnostic procedure don't you? Yes, no problem in this usage. That sentence could easily have been omitted from my post, and represents leftover feelings from my days as a desk jockey. A technician would call to report a problem. I'd ask, "What diagnostics have you done so far?". Response: "Well, I checked the crown and bearing." No problem right? Except that the reason for the original call was a pedal squeak, a let-off or checking problem, or anything that was far removed from a sound, voicing, tuning, belly or related problem. Let's just say I became overly sensitive to the practice. [Harvey] >>On a positive note, and like square grands, this piano sure is pretty! As an >>aside to a recent thread, I wish the domestic versions had the service record >>holder nailed to the edge of the rim or other convenient place. [Nossaman] >*Careful Jim, You're talking about the last tech leaving useful information >for the tech that replaces him - a very unpopular concept. (Sorry girls, but >I think this is a guy thing. Women aren't that insecure, are they?) I don't know where I stand in the poll, but I do not endorse scribing tuning information on the plate, sides of keys, or anywhere else. I sometimes find a business card in a piano, and unlike my earlier years, find I actually *know* the person! The last two examples were Martin Tittle and Nolan Zeringue. I now have one of each of their former clients in my area. As for when they tuned, etc., I don't particularly want that information. I provide records for myself on 'puter, and present an itemized invoice to a client, which seems typical of most technicians. I have never written on or in a piano in the methods that have been discussed here, except for removable chalk marks on keysticks, or other temporary measures. Within the past three years, I have discovered situations where a brief service history at the piano proves helpful. It's rare but not unique -- one piano, multiple clients (payors). Example: I maintain a concert grand in a university. I've been paid for servicing this piano by various departments of the university (same money, different pockets), the performing arts association, and private groups. Sometimes one party wants to "borrow" from previous service work, thereby saving budget. A written record of service dates, along with temperature and humidity readings and a note about the activity has helped cure some of the faulty time memory that everyone has. "Gee, it seems like this piano was just tuned last week. Can't we get by without...?" Since my records are client based, it takes too much time to find the information, especially on site, to validate the need for service. I've started to use the PTG service records with the self-stick backing. I was assured that these will not remove bronzing, and will not become permanent over time. So far these assurances have proved correct. I use the stickers in certain instances in homes too, but don't remove the protective paper covering the adhesive. I simply place the label in the treble plate webbing area, or on top of the pinblock in a vertical. The only time there would be a problem is if the piano is moved. Then, any "evidence" may disappear as well. Sorry for the late response. Jim Harvey, RPT harvey@greenwood.net
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