For David Porrit: Thanks for the vote of confidence! When I grow up I may be literary. In the meantime, I work quite hard at just being literate! 8-} I've collected other responses on the "kludge" thread below. I admit that my discovery, pronunciation, usage and spelling of "kludge" is quite convoluted. I used to hang out with engineers and computer nerds, working on hobbyist activities that had nothing to do with pianos -- although we sometimes used piano parts in unorthodox ways! No doubt this is where I picked up the word, the intent of use (when and how it was used), and the way it sounded as it fell out of someone's mouth. As for the spelling, I saw the word in print a long time after that, and simply put the two together -- assuming they were the same. So, my usage and meaning more closely reflect Bryant's version from computer/engineering circles, as well as Rob's and Newton's #1 definitions. Although I don't know the proper dictionary methods, I pronounce it "klooj" -- no aural 'd', no hard 'g'. Gee, wouldn't it be funny if they meant a Swedish drink all that time? I may have missed something. ---------------------- [David] >The word Kludge came up the other day and the user pronounced it "kloodge" - >a twist I had not heard on it. I looked it up in all the dictionaries I have >without success. > >You are a literary person, do you have a prefered pronunciation for this word >I have not been able to find in the dictionary?? [Bryant] from AmHerDict: "WORD HISTORY: The word kludge is not “etymologist-friendly,” having many possible origins, none of which can be definitively established. This term, found frequently in the jargon of the engineering and computer professions, denotes a usually workable but makeshift system, modification, solution, or repair. Kludge has had a relatively short life (first recorded in 1962 although it is said to have been used as early as 1944 or 1945) for a word with so many possible origins." [Stuart-Vail] Kludge, which I have always heard pronounced as you wrote: kloodge, (and not not like sludge), seems to mean a useful but unorthodox, and perhaps temporary approach to solving a problem or fixing something, the kind of thing piano people are always doing. I'll suggest that the origin of the word is German: klug (clever). [Newton] 1. Kluge, pronounced Kluj, most like a colloquialism is a poorly engineered thrown together devise, that may or may not work, to solve a problem. 2. Kluge, pronounced Klugee with a hard 'g', is the manufacturer of automatic printing machinery, finicky as hell and trice as hard to keep going without problems. [Deets] >I thought Kluge was a "Swedish" drink? Jim Harvey, RPT harvey@greenwood.net
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