This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment I'll interspese my comments with your post below - look for ** Terry Farrell Piano Tuning & Service Tampa, Florida mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Billbrpt@AOL.COM=20 To: pianotech@ptg.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 9:36 AM Subject: Re: Jasper American Piano In a message dated 11/22/00 8:04:44 AM Central Standard Time,=20 mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com (Farrell)=20 writes:=20 > "Instead of the high flight tune-offs between Coleman & Smith, the = > ultimate PTG challenge might have been having a couple of our=20 > superstars each uncrate one of those puppies, and after a frenzy = of=20 > string seating and hammer needling, see what they could turn them=20 > into."=20 Now that is an interesting thought. Give 'em maybe four to eight = hours -=20 anything goes - and see what they can do. I'll bet a GREAT = EDUCATIONAL=20 DIVIDEND would result. Are you reading this Dale Probst??? Who is = running=20 the show in Reno this year??? Are you reading this??? Is this an = idea or=20 what? Anything to increase the tolerability of some of these = offensive=20 little critters.=20 Frankly, Terry, I don't see this happening. As someone who deals with = this=20 kind of piano, fine grands and everything in between, I can tell you = that you=20 learn to look at the piano and the expectations of the customer as = individual=20 cases. The old saying, "You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's = ear"=20 comes to mind. The lady thought it sounded pretty good as it was and=20 speaking pragmatically from experience, that already counts for a lot. = Doing what you and the other writer suggest, tearing the piano apart, = seating=20 strings, replacing materials, etc., would only end up making you, the=20 technician look like some kind of con artist who would try to "sell = ice to=20 Eskimos". If this piano had not been tuned in years but the customer = is not=20 concerned about pitch, why try to *force* that issue? If she agrees = that it=20 sounds "tinny" and it is obvious that the hammers were overly = hardened, why=20 not just squirt a little alcohol on them or use Roger Jolly's steam = method?=20 ** No one said anything about rebuilding the lady's 5 year old = Kimball. The post regarded a free-floating thought for a convention = class. Nothing more than a whim at this point. Often some of the best = learning experiences are those that take us to a realm that we might = otherwise not ever go to (And BTW, the hammers were so deeply grooved, = that I would not want to steam them - I would be afraid that the first = time they hit the string, they would stick!) Now, I might do things like vacuum out dirt, lube, tighten screws, = adjust=20 lost motion, let-off, key level and dip, file and basically voice = hammers on=20 a piano like this when the time comes and the customer agrees. But in = this=20 case, it is a newer instrument which was obviously purchased more as a = piece=20 of furniture than as a musical instrument. It would be best to simply = tune=20 while perhaps raising the pitch a small but comfortable amount and use = a=20 quick and easy voicing technique that would soften the overly hard = hammers.=20 ** I stated in my post that the daughter plays the piano and she has = been taking classical piano lesson from a very prominent local teacher = for six years. In my opinion she needs the piano well tuned at A=3D440. = Anything less would not be doing my job, IMHO. If the tuning pins are tight, take that as a positive thing, not = negative. =20 ** I did not comment on that. The back structure of these kinds of pianos is a solid as a rock. You = can=20 count on at least that part of it to hold up for a lifetime. Use the = kind of=20 tuning hammer and/or technique that will allow you to move those pins. = Don't=20 worry about false beats if there are any, the customer can't = distinguish such=20 fine points. ** The daughter was complaining that her piano does not sound like her = teachers. I think she may be able to distinguish such fine points. Don't badmouth the piano in any way. Tell her it "looks nice"=20 in her living room and "sounds pretty good" when you are finished = tuning, *in=20 the usual amount of time and for the usual fee*.=20 ** I did, but it took a lot of lip biting to not tell her to get her = daughter a real piano for playing Chopin & Beethoven. Lastly, do you think I would *insist* on tuning in ET for all of the = reasons=20 people give? Never, never, never. The beauty of knowing a variety of = HT's=20 or creating a unique temperament as I have with the EBVT is that you = really=20 can make such a piano sound ever so much sweeter to the people who own = it.=20 Time and again in my career, I have done the simple, practical, useful = and=20 appropriate things to service the small, common piano and have built a = loyal=20 and contented clientele while others who "only do Steinways" and who = have=20 proposed "rebuilding" an instrument which is essentially new have been = labeled as crooks and gone out of business. If there is to be a = Convention=20 program about how to handle a piano like this, it should be about how = to do=20 the basic and practical things easily and efficiently, not on applying = the=20 techniques used on fine, expensive instruments where they will do = little or=20 no good.=20 ** Again, go beyond the normal to see what happens. I'm not even = seriously pushing for a class in maxing-out a Kimball console. It just = sounded like an idea with some potential benefits, so I said so. Bill Bremmer RPT=20 Madison, Wisconsin=20 ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/ec/c9/89/12/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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