Richard, Sort of a "if a tree falls in a forest without a human around is there a sound"? Going back to a comment you made earlier about the noisy environment experience and how they wanted an "ear tuner". I simply reject someone who uses a tuning fork as an ear tuner. So many times I come behind "fork tuners" or "tuners with folks" who have left the treble extremely flat or the entire piano below pitch. There is nothing better, IMHO, as an ETD & the ears (hey that would be cool, an ETC with ears). You can't beat that combination with a "certain something". When the piano is tuned for a Master Tuning for a PTG tuning test by 3 RPTs, I can quarantee you they don't decide when its correct by a "certain something" or "sounds just right" criteria. They use traditional aural tests...guess what? A SAT and the RCT can get a 100% on all the sections just by stopping the lights. The stability section is another thing all together and where the tuner is exposed if un-prepared. What does this all mean? Nothing in the real world. There will be lousy tuners and good tuners. Some will have a tuning fork and some won't. If I was looking for a technician to help me in my work I would want someone who learned to tune with a fork but was now using a ETD and their ears when appropriate. Richard B. wrote: >if you cant hear a thing, their is no sense of its sound. David Ilvedson, RPT David Ilvedson wrote: > I think that "certain something" is a very quaint idea encouraged by folks > who tune with a tuning fork. > > David I. > > >Even then he/she would always be missing that certain something that only > >the ear can give you to be assured it "sounds" just right. > > An ETD can not hear... it can only measure. > -- > Richard Brekne > RPT, N.P.T.F. > Bergen, Norway -- Richard Brekne RPT, N.P.T.F. Bergen, Norway
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