Teflon and polymer fume fever

Kristinn Leifsson istuner@islandia.is
Fri, 29 Sep 2000 18:08:51 +0000


Whoops,  so I´m expected to actually KNOW what I´m talking about?

Sheesh!

Kristinn Leifsson,
Reykjavík, Iceland, I think.


At 07:44 29.9.2000 -0400, you wrote:
>Kristinn,
>
>Yes,  I'm afraid you missed the point.  The original comment Larry made was
>about Teflon being heated over 400 degrees F.  Paper (such as a cigarette
>paper) burns at 451 degrees F.  That was the connection.
>
>Allan
>Allan L. Gilreath, RPT
>Assistant Director - TEAM20001
>July 2001 - Reno, NV
>agilreath@mindspring.com
>http://www.equaltemperament.com/ptg/
>Director: Laura Olsen, RPT
>Assistant Directors: Allan Gilreath, RPT - Gary Neie, RPT - Vince Mrykalo,
>RPT - Dale Probst, RPT
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]On Behalf
>Of Kristinn Leifsson
>Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 6:53 PM
>To: pianotech@ptg.org
>Subject: RE: Teflon and polymer fume fever
>
>
>What does teflon have to do with paper?
>
>I thought that teflon and other related polymers were tremendously stable.
>
>
>And guys, better watch out for that fluoric acid.
>Come on Larry, you sure about the flu like symptoms stemming from heated
>teflon? :)
>
>"He who shall be burned by fluoric acid shall suffer, for the fluorine
>shall bind with the calcium ions facilitating neurological impulses within
>the body of the aforementioned person resulting in death."   K.L.
>
>
>Kristinn Leifsson,
>Reykjavík, Iceland
>
>P.S. Somehow I feel like I didn´t get it.
>
>
>
>
>At 18:13 28.9.2000 -0400, you wrote:
> >In other words, don't smoke while applying this stuff.  Paper burns at 451
> >degrees F and small amounts of the dust in the air could be heated by the
> >ember. (Thanks Ray Bradbury for that piece of trivia.)  I certainly hope no
> >one still smokes around the customers piano anyway. <grin>  Seriously
> >though, you might want to make sure that you burn shanks before applying
> >Teflon.
> >
> >Allan
> >Allan L. Gilreath, RPT
> >Assistant Director - TEAM20001
> >July 2001 - Reno, NV
> >agilreath@mindspring.com
> >http://www.equaltemperament.com/ptg/
> >Director: Laura Olsen, RPT
> >Assistant Directors: Allan Gilreath, RPT - Gary Neie, RPT - Vince Mrykalo,
> >RPT - Dale Probst, RPT
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]On Behalf
> >Of Larry
> >Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 3:38 PM
> >To: pianotech@ptg.org
> >Subject: Re: Teflon and polymer fume fever
> >
> >
> >I believe that when Teflon is heated, some fluoric acids may be produced
> >which cause the flu like symtoms.  I don't see how a piano technician is
> >going to use Teflon when heated to 400 C (750 F).  (Does any one know what
> >temperatures automobile engines reach?)  Anyway, I could believe that the
> >dust itself could trigger allergy like symptoms just like any other dust
> >irritant.  Personally I try to avoid breathing any kind of dust, whether it
> >is normal house dust, sawdust, or Teflon.
> >
> >Larry Beach, RPT
> >Vancouver, BC, Canada
> >
> >At 07:26 PM 28/09/2000 +0100, you wrote:
> > >This may have been discuss on the list before and I just missed it....
> > >
> > >I was using some fine Teflon power the other day and started to get light
> > >heeded and sneezing it has never bothered me before the same happened
> > >today on a different piano, it may be just a coincidence and I could just
> > >be coming down with the dreaded lurg. (Flu)  So I had a look for Symptoms
> > >caused by Teflon all I could find was
> > >
> > >http://www.haz-map.com/inhalati.htm
> > >
> > >Teflon Dry Lube Material Safety Data Sheet
> > >http://www.pai-net.com/msds/tefdry.html
> > >
> > >WHAT IS TEFLON?
> > >http://crystal.biol.csufresno.edu:8080/projects/94.html
> > >
> > >I am aware that the problem caused on the sites above are due to over
> > >exposure to fumes when heated.  However, since the product we use is
>micro
> > >fine and could get into the lounges quite easy anyone know of any other
> > >health problems.
> > >
> > >I guess technology will kill us in the end no matter what prevention's we
> >take
> > >
> > >
> > >Barrie,
> > >
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> > >



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