I am interested in understanding your use of the Sanderson AccuTuner. Your approach appears unique. > I have no need at all for the FAC type calculation. I, in fact don't even > know how to do it and don't even want to learn. To me, it is useless. *I* > and *I* alone determine the intervals and the stretch. > I still do the wound > strings on most pianos entirely by ear and when I reach the 7th octave on > many pianos, I stop looking at the SAT. You apparently use a SAT. But you do not use FAC numbers. That's amazing. I do not understand how to operate the SAT without inputting FAC numbers to calculate a tuning (and then modifying the calculated tuning to your taste/preference by manipulation of the FAC number or the Double Octave Beat feature on the SAT III). Could you please explain your procedure. I am always interested how to better use this valuable tool. Thanks Terry Farrell Piano Tuning & Service Tampa, Florida mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Billbrpt@AOL.COM> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 12:41 AM Subject: Re: Aural? > In a message dated 9/28/00 10:50:01 PM Central Daylight Time, > ramsey@extremezone.com (Kevin E. Ramsey RPT) writes: > > << Hi, I have an unusual history. I first started tuning (snip, snip) I'm > still humble, although I seem to have an answer for everything. And by the > way, I do use my ear every time I tune, but mostly it's to check the results > I'm getting, which are quite good. Tuning's not hard, voicing a piano is what > counts. >> > > My own experiece is so similar to Kevin's that I can hardly believe I didn't > write what he did. I am basically an aural tuner and was for some 21 years > before I tried to use the SAT and it took me two years before the SAT was > anything more than an encumberence to what I always felt I could do "faster, > better and cheaper", as they say, by ear. > > I have no need at all for the FAC type calculation. I, in fact don't even > know how to do it and don't even want to learn. To me, it is useless. *I* > and *I* alone determine the intervals and the stretch. I still do the wound > strings on most pianos entirely by ear and when I reach the 7th octave on > many pianos, I stop looking at the SAT. I do not "count" beats. I may make > a couple of initial estimates but after that, everything is done by > comparison of either exactly the same, slower or faster but without there > ever being a precise, numerical rate of beating affixed to any particular > interval. > > I wear ear plugs always. The piano is so loud, I can hear all the beats I > need to hear right through them. > > I have often noticed that some of PTG's very best tuners learned all by > themselves. In my opinion, it takes that kind of personality to be in this > business: a self-starter, musical talent, experience, perception and a desire > to work very hard at very small details that seem insignificant to others. > > I have often been confronted with the "how dare you?" admonition regarding > the way I tune and the fact that I most often use a temperament and octave > system that I designed myself. I laugh to myself the number of times that > someone has looked me up and down and said, "You?, YOU?, ***YOU***? You > think ***YOU*** know better than all of the people who contributed to the > volumes of HT's and the conventional wisdom of today? ****YOU****!!!??? > > The answer, is yes, I do. There wasn't a single method in all of the books I > ever read that was good enough for me, so I came up with my own. My methods > however are the synthesis of all of the many things I have learned along the > way by the many great PTG technicians, most of them Golden Hammer Award > winners who each has had his own style and perspective. I've always believed > that a good student does not simply regurgitate the knowledge that has been > acquired but makes something new and evolutionary from it. > > Bill Bremmer RPT > Madison, Wisconsin >
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