Wouldn't the absence of tuning bushings also suggest the need for a much more finely fitted pinblock, as it should, thus possibly producing a side-effect of inhibiting the tone? Just a thought. It has been evident that many current production instruments which use tuning pin bushings also disregard the need to fit the pinblock. Yamaha and Kawai come to mind. I am interested in hearing the opinions out there who have converted pianos (like Yamaha or Kawai) with blocks properly fitted and eliminated the tuning bushings altogether. Any tonal improvement? Tom Servinsky,RPT ----- Original Message ----- From: "antares" <antares@EURONET.NL> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 8:58 AM Subject: Re: S&S tuning pins... > Hello Friend Brekne and Del, > > You two asked me for an explanation in regard to my former statements? > > I must disappoint you, I can not give a scientific reason. On the other > hand, I did not say why tuning pins bushings influence the tone, I just > said they do. > > That I can explain : > > My first encounter with this was may years ago during my very first visit at > the Steinway factory in Hamburg. > I asked why STW did not have tuning pins bushings and they told me that it > gave another tone..I did not understand it but just took swallowed that > explanation. > Then many years later in 1998 I did the Yamaha Concert grand course and 'my > instrument' was a prototype without bushings and it did sound much better. > the tone was more clear and open. > Since then all CFIIS grand have tuning pins without bushings and the do > sound better. > > It probably has to do with energy not being killed by this 'collar around > the neck' > > friendly greetings > from > > Antares, > > Amsterdam, Holland > > "where music is, no harm can be" > > > From: Richard Brekne <rbrekne@operamail.com> > > Reply-To: pianotech@ptg.org > > Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 22:42:15 +0200 > > To: pianotech@ptg.org > > Subject: Re: S&S tuning pins... > > > > 22.08.2001 18:47:25, antares <antares@EURONET.NL> wrote: > > > >> Tuning pin bushings influence the tone, that is why Yamaha some years ago > >> finally decided to not use tuning pin bushings anymore on their > >> flagship..the CFIIIS. > >> > >> friendly greetings > >> from > >> > >> Antares, > >> > > > > Anters Mio !!... :) Ok now you put your foot in it. This puts me back on the > > snuffs of this circle of sound thing I have heard a few times, and up to now > > its been > > presented in such a way that it seems simply like something out of the book of > > the Templars or something. However, there is often as not some element of > > truth in even > > the strangest of legends they say.... so to the point.... just how do tuning > > pin bushings influence the tone of an instrument, and to what degree do they > > do so. And while > > you are at it.. how does this influence on tone work into the discussion about > > open face vs closed face pin blocks ? > > > > btw... good to "see" you again ! > > > > Richard Brekne > > > > >
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