Thanks for the even-handed post Del. If I had to guess the end result at this point, your post identifies how it will end up. Terry Farrell Piano Tuning & Service Tampa, Florida mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Delwin D Fandrich" <pianobuilders@olynet.com> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 2:04 PM Subject: Re: loose bridge pins/false beats > Terry, > > After reading all of the various posts on this topic.... > > I think the manufacture -- in this case, both the manufacturer selling the > piano and the manufacturer actually making the piano -- will tell you the > damage (and they will call it 'damage') is/was caused by environmental > extremes. And this with some, at least potential, justification. Whether you > agree or disagree with this decision will not really affect it much. > > Unless, of course, you can demonstrate that the problem is systemic to the > brand of piano in question, which I doubt you can do. To the best of my > knowledge this problem is not common to Kawai pianos -- the actual > manufacturer -- and I doubt their drilling, notching and pinning procedure > is any different with the Boston pianos than it is with their own Kawai > pianos. > > I suspect in the end the customer will end up being responsible for any > costs involved in removing the false beats you are hearing. And, personally, > I would have a very difficult time insisting that either the manufacturer or > the customer pay for recapping the bridge -- in fact, I wouldn't even > suggest it. In general, regardless of who is picking up the tab, I am in > favor of the least intrusive repair that will end up doing the job. In this > case, I would go with water-thin epoxy. (As opposed to CA which I don't have > that much faith in over the long haul, i.e., decades.) > > Regards, > > Del > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Farrell" <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org> > Sent: January 15, 2001 9:42 AM > Subject: Re: loose bridge pins/false beats > > > > "....apply CA to a loose bridge.....I have used this approach on old > clunker > > upgrights." > > > > Yes, I have no doubt CA can help....for some indeterminable > > time.....maybe.....probably. And this might be a fine approach for the old > > clunker. Would you consider this to be an appropriate solution if it were > > your $20,000 piano that was still under warranty? This to me is not all > that > > much different than a loose wheel stud on a 9-month old car - except maybe > > you won't die from the loose bridge pin....maybe. > > > > P.S. my tone here is to practice for an anticipated upcoming conversation > > with dealer/manufacturer! > > > > Terry Farrell > > Piano Tuning & Service > > Tampa, Florida > > mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Don" <drose@dlcwest.com> > > To: <pianotech@ptg.org> > > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 10:09 AM > > Subject: Re: loose bridge pins/false beats > > > > > > > Hi Howard, > > > > > > It seems to not cause problems. I have used this approach on old clunker > > > upgrights. > > > > > > At 09:54 AM 01/15/2001 -0500, you wrote: > > > > > > >Hi Don, > > > > > > > >If you apply CA to a loose bridge pin without removing the string, even > > with > > > >the utmost care, won't some of the liquid wick around and glue the > string > > to > > > >the pin causing some rendering problems? I've never done this so I'm > > using > > > >my imagination as this topic does interest me. > > > > > > > >Howard S. Rosen, RPT > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.M.T., R.P.T. > > > > > > Tuner for the Saskatchewan Centre of the Arts > > > > > > mailto:drose@dlcwest.com > > > http://donrose.xoasis.com/ > > > > > > 3004 Grant Rd. > > > REGINA, SK > > > S4S 5G7 > > > 306-352-3620 or 1-888-29t-uner > > > > > > >
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