Hi Jeannie. I'm sure Del is right that the lid is a poplar core with an outside veneer. The poplar core is edge-glued panels a few inches wide - much like a soundboard, only thicker. The edge-glueing has come apart and someone placed 1x4s on the inside of the lid and nailed the lid panels together (I assume these were placed on the inside - 'cause it might look kinda ugly on the outside - pretty impressive when you open the lid I bet!). Terry Farrell Piano Tuning & Service Tampa, Florida mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeannie Grassi" <jgrassi@silverlink.net> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:41 AM Subject: RE: Re: sun-bleached lid > Chris, > Was this the original lid? What do you mean it was nailed together? I'm > having trouble understanding what you mean. I'm just a little groggy this > morning....not enough sun. > > jeannie > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]On Behalf > Of Chris Gregg > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 10:09 PM > To: pianotech@ptg.org > Subject: Re: Re: sun-bleached lid > > > Stan, > > Have you considered veneering the lid. It is not that difficult a job > and you should be able to find a match quite easily for the piano. One > thing to check out first, is there veneer on the lid? I know that my > model A has a solid mahogany lid. How do I know? Because it was nailed > together with one by fours when I bought it. > > Chris > > At 08:06 PM 1/16/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >Golly Gee. I don't think Mark Cramer from Brandon University could ever > >offend me. He was such a gracious host for our group almost one year ago > now > >while we played with soundboards! > > > >Anyway, NO. I don't have a proven method for bleaching out a lid. BUT I do > >have a work or two of warning. I have used a variety of wood bleaches in > >marine applications. I have always used them on solid planks of mahogany, > >etc. The bleach is really hard on the wood. Really blasts the grain out > from > >the surface, etc. You need to soak the wood pretty good usually. I would be > >a bit hesitant using it on a veneered lid. I would be afraid it would just > >chew the veneer right off. > > > >If you go that rout, you might try starting with a highly watered down > >mixture and use it sparingly. You can always hit it again with more bleach > >if desired. > > > >Also, I know it is generally not a good idea to sand on a veneer much, but > >you might want to try a small spot and see whether a moderate amount of > >sanding will get you through the sun-bleached zone. Often offending > colors - > >stains, sun-bleaching - don't go all the way through the veneer. Obviously, > >be real careful with this approach also! > > > >Who owns the piano? Did you tell them that all real pianos are finished in > >ebony??????? > > > >Terry Farrell > >Piano Tuning & Service > >Tampa, Florida > >mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Stan Kroeker" <stan@pianoexperts.mb.ca> > >To: <pianotech@ptg.org> > >Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 4:11 PM > >Subject: Fwd: Re: sun-bleached lid > > > > > >> Dear list: > >> > >> Not sure what the protocol is for messages forwarded from > >> non-subscribers. If it doesn't offend you, then please consider > >> sharing your experiences with the following refinishing problem. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Stan Kroeker > >> Registered Piano Technician > >> > >> Mark Cramer wrote: > >> > > >> > Hi list, > >> > I'm having a 1911 mahogany 'O' refininshed. The lid has been left open > >all > >> > it's life, such that half the lid is red, and the other half blond. I > >know > >> > you've all seen this before, this is the vintage where the legs are > >> > grain-painted. > >> > > >> > Does anyone have a succesful (proven) approach for blending (bleaching) > >the > >> > two halves? > >> > > >> > thanks, > >> > Mark Cramer, > >> > Brandon University > >> > > > > > > > http://www.cadvision.com/cgregg > > > >
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