Thine Hallow Pitche

[David Ilvedson]

Hi Joe,

Were you replying to your own message?  Were you replying to me or Kristen?  I don't understand "Sorry HEAT"...

David I.

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On 3/2/01 at 7:38 PM Joe & Penny Goss wrote:

>Sorry HEAT
>
>
>
>> Hi David,
>> Violins or any string instrument will have no problem but that is not the
>> case for the woodwinds and brass. I would have to get another tuba to
>play
>> at A444 as the instrument plays at A442when the tuning slide  is all the
>way
>> in and the horn warmed up.
>> Also the orchestra bells are a set tuning and change with the HEAT only a
>> little. I always wondered why they sounded out of tune <G> perhaps they
>are
>> tuned for Europ at A442.
>> Joe Goss
>> imatunr@primenet.com
>> http://www.primenet.com/~imatunr/
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey@jps.net>
>> To: "pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
>> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 9:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: Thine Hallow Pitche
>>
>>
>> > With my symphony customers who are playing at 442 in the concert hall,
>442
>> seems very appropriate for their home...;-]
>> > If these same customers wanted 440 one time and 442 the next I would
>> suspect you would have a problem...
>> > Any change of 8 cents is going mean some instability.  That means going
>> through the piano twice and more $ from the customer.  If it needs to
>come
>> back down it will need tuning twice and more $ again.  Our symphony here
>in
>> San Francisco tunes to A442, mainly because of the former concert
>master's
>> insistance...I believe.  Question:  wouldn't it be a pain for other
>> instrumentalists to switch between 440 and 442?  Don't violins have to be
>> set up for the different pitches?
>> >
>> > I think most tuners would have no problem with A442 if everyone would
>> stick to it.  But then we would have musician "purists" insisting upon
>the
>> old standard of A440 and remarking about how much better it sounds there.
>> >
>> > David I.
>> >
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>> > On 3/1/01 at 6:24 PM Kristinn Leifsson wrote:
>> >
>> > >O.K.  Carol wrote about the pitch thing.
>> > >
>> > >We normally tune to A440, but the symphony tunes to A442  We don´t
>take
>> > >them as far as A444 (unless perhaps when stock tuning new pianos). I
>> heard
>> > >A444, is concert standard in Austria and the Czech Rep., but that´s
>> > >another
>> > >matter.
>> > >I have customers that play in the Iceland Symphony Orchestra and I
>don´t
>> > >hesitate to bring a piano up to 442, as long as the strings etc. are
>> > >healthy.  In fact, any time I tune a piano I ask whether there are
>other
>> > >instruments going to be used with it.
>> > >
>> > >I have NEVER had a problem resulting from tuning an instrument to
>A442.
>> > >There has never been a broken string at a concert I have tuned for.
>> > >
>> > >So what´s the deal with the holy pitch?  Are there many tuners out
>there
>> > >that will absolutely NOT bring a piano above A440,
>> > >and will -quote- "sooner quit their jobs than do it" -unquote- (hi
>> > >Carol).  I´m not talking about whether to charge more etc.  just the
>> > >principle of the thing.  I know this has been covered many times
>before,
>> > >but please.
>> > >
>> > >Carol knows that I think it´s ridiculous, if the instrument is
>healthy.
>> > ><g>  What do other people think?  And what about other Europeans?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Kristinn "Psychotuner" Leifsson
>> > >Reykjavík, Iceland
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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