pianotech-digest V2001 #295

Joseph Garrett joegarrett@earthlink.net
Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:30:06 -0800


Re. 80 year old with the pedal problem
why not just put a VERY strong spring on the sustain pedal. Then the sweet
lil' ol' lady will have to give the pedal a rest, not to mention her leg.
:-)
Joe Garrett, RPT
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> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 09:07:25 -0800
> From: "Patrick C. Poulson" <pcpoulso@pacbell.net>
> Subject: Polyester Repair
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> Good Day, all! Can anyone direct me to a Journal article about polyester =
> finish repair? I have search the CD-ROM and find only ads from Schaff.  =
> Has an article about this repair appeared since 1999, maybe? I have =
> never done this repair before, and am wondering about the wisdom of =
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> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 08:56:14 -0800
> From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey@jps.net>
> Subject: Re: What do you tell a 90 year old lady....
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> Here's what you do...adjust the pedal so you only get some damper lift at
> the very bottom of stroke.
>
> David I.
>
>
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
>
> On 3/3/01 at 11:31 AM Wimblees@AOL.COM wrote:
> In a message dated 3/2/01 8:40:03 PM Central Standard Time,
> Yardarm103669107@AOL.COM writes:
>
>
>
> Willem:
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think most pianists totally lift
their
>
> foot from the pedal at modulation. Generally, there is slack in the
sustain
>
> pedal (about 1/8") to allow the foot to rest on the pedal before the dowel
> begins to lift the tray, or in the case of an upright, before the rod
lifts
>
> the lifter bar under the dampers. Does this sound right, or did I misread
> your note?
> Paul R-J
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This lady pushed her foot down, and kept it there. She even commented that
> she had never lifted her foot during playing for as long as she had been
> playing. That is why it was hard for me to tell her she'd been doing it
> wrong
> for 80 years.
>
> Willem
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> <DIV>Here's what you do...adjust the pedal so you only get some damper
lift at
> the very bottom of stroke.&nbsp; </DIV>
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> <DIV>David I.</DIV>
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> <DIV><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>*********** REPLY SEPARATOR
> ***********<BR><BR>On 3/3/01 at 11:31 AM Wimblees@AOL.COM
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> style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px
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>   face=arial,helvetica><FONT size=2>In a message dated 3/2/01 8:40:03 PM
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>   Standard Time, <BR>Yardarm103669107@AOL.COM writes: <BR><BR><BR>
>   <BLOCKQUOTE
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>   TYPE="CITE">Willem: <BR>Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think most
>     pianists totally lift their <BR>foot from the pedal at modulation.
>     Generally, there is slack in the sustain <BR>pedal (about 1/8") to
allow the
>     foot to rest on the pedal before the dowel <BR>begins to lift the
tray, or
>     in the case of an upright, before the rod lifts <BR>the lifter bar
under the
>     dampers. Does this sound right, or did I misread <BR>your note?
<BR>Paul R-J
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>   face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>This lady pushed
her
>   foot down, and kept it there. She even commented that <BR>she had never
lifted
>   her foot during playing for as long as she had been <BR>playing. That is
why
>   it was hard for me to tell her she'd been doing it wrong <BR>for 80
years.
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 09:04:20 -0800
> From: "Mark Wisner" <MWisner@yamaha.com>
> Subject: Re: Yamaha U2
>
> The U2 model was never sold new here in the USA, so this is a
"gray-market" piano.
> For the USA market, we sold several models of upright pianos that had only
two pedals.  Although Yamaha grands for all markets now have three pedals we
have never sold a grand here in the USA with only two pedals.
>
> "Did Yamaha have to discontinue the model after Bono filed a copyright
infringement lawsuit?"
>
> Nah.....Yamaha named the U2 after the spy plane, so........no problem!
>
>
> Mark Wisner
> Piano Service
> Yamaha Corporation
> mwisner@yamaha.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:41:23 -0500
> From: "Carol R. Beigel" <crbrpt@bellatlantic.net>
> Subject: Even more pictures of Iceland
>
> I fixed some of the pictures of Iceland and posted the "shoes".  They are
> X-18s, made in Reykjavik, and come in flourescent green and flourescent
blue
> soles as well!  I did not realize until I arrived home in a snowstorm,
that
> they are also waterproof and give great traction on ice.  To my knowlege,
> nothing quite like them are sold in the U.S.  Makes a memorable impression
> on your customers, too!
>
> Once you click on the picture you want to see, click the View icon, then
the
> box at the top right corner to see the pictures on a full screen.  It
seems
> no matter how hard I try, I can only get the pictures to appear in the
order
> I posted them.  The newer pics are at the bottom of the list.
>
> The more memorable things I saw was the color of blue water, whether it be
> boiling mud or pools from the power plants, whatever that pretty blue
> mineral was, it was everywhere.  Also, the idea of baking bread in milk
> cartons in steam holes in the ground was really neat!  And not to forget
> that they can make you a pair of eyeglasses in the airport in just 15
> minutes!  I bought some small German-made frames and they cut the lenses
> from my old glasses to fit the new frames on something that looked like a
> desk-top copier!  If you don't have really bad astigmatism, they can make
a
> new set of lenses on the spot - even bifocals.  They also had some little
> things - like a 6 pack of small dot-shaped toothbrushes, compete with no
> rinse toothpaste, that are disposable and stick to the end of you finger,
> plastic toothpicks and some of the funniest commercials (on the Discovery
> Channel, no less!) I have ever seen on TV.  Too bad we Americans are such
> prudes we can't enjoy some of the funnier realities of life.  Still having
> trouble finding that Braun shaver, though!
>
> Enjoy.
>
> Carol Beigel
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 11:01:28 -0700
> From: Robert Goodale <rrg@nevada.edu>
> Subject: Re: Pinbock thickness
>
> Get the right size.  Sometimes you can cheat a little if it is a little
> thin, say 3/16 at the absolute most and preferably less in most
> circumstances.  In some isolated cases this can be somewhat of an
> advantage if the piano lacks downbearing and you want to try correcting
> this somewhat by slightly lowering the plate.  As a side bar, however, be
> aware that doing this can also reduce the keybed clearance so that the
> action won't slide into the piano because the drop screws will run into
> the block.
>
> Even a slight difference can be pretty substantial.  One significant
> reason, (particularly a whopping 1/2 inch), is that your tuning pins in
> all likelihood will be too long and stick out through the bottom of the
> block.  Then you have to use shorter pins to compensate.  This might seem
> like it isn't a big deal but now you really are starting to change the way
> the piano was designed.  Since the idea of "restoration" is to make the
> piano like it was when new, you really have passed the threshold of
> "restoration.  Doing a rebuild job requires many hours of hard work.
> After going through the 98% effort of rebuilding everything else
> correctly, go the tiny 2% and do it right.  It is no big deal to order a
> new block.  You can use the 1-1/2 block on another piano.
>
> Rob Goodale, RPT
> Las Vegas, NV
>
>
>
> David Renaud wrote:
>
> > A Knabe grand pinblock originally 1 3/4" thick.
> > Sits on the shelf, with wood shims(thin), elevating the
> > block/plate, to the proper level. Block ends are into the rim about 1/2
> > inch.
> >
> > The distance from the plate to the bottom of the flange is only 1 1/2
> > inches.
> > So what is so stop me from using a 1 1/2" block and shimming
> > the shelf the extra 1/4". It is screwed/glued down to the shelf away.
> > If it is important to use a 1 3/4" block, why is it important?
> >
> > I ask as I have the 1 1/2" block material in stock, not 1 3/4"
> > I am only considering if this may be an option,
> > consulting with several experts that know better,
> > including this list.
> >
> >                                  Thank You
> >                                  Dave Renaud
> >                                  RPT
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:55:38 -0500
> From: Glenn Grafton <glenn@graftonpiano.com>
> Subject: Re: Polyester Repair
>
> >Good Day, all! Can anyone direct me to a Journal article about
> >polyester finish repair? I have search the CD-ROM and find only ads
> >from Schaff.  Has an article about this repair appeared since 1999,
> >maybe? I have never done this repair before, and am wondering about
> >the wisdom of diving into it on a customer's piano without prior
> >experience. Thanks, Patrick Poulson, RPT
>
> If this is a one shot repair, I would recommend you refer the repair
> to someone else with prior experience with polyester experience. You
> don't want to practice on your first polyester repair on a customers
> piano in their house though.
>
> It's sort of like when we get a customer who comes in looking to buy
> a tuning hammer and some mutes so they can tune their own piano.
>
> If you're interested in making this a regular part of your services
> you'll need the right materials, tools and go through a learning
> curve, as with most things.
>
> We've used polyester materials from Allied National Industries in the
> past with good results. We still use their buffing wheels (both a
> course one and a fine one). The Koning materials are better. They're
> available from Web Phillips (see: http://www.webbphillips.com/)
>
> To do it right you need to go out and buy a buffing machine with the
> proper rpm, which you can get at an auto body supply store that
> caters to the body shops (you won't find them at Home Depot, Sears,
> etc.).
> - --
> Glenn Grafton
> Grafton Piano & Organ Co.
> 1081 County Line Rd.
> Souderton PA 18964
> http://www.graftonpiano.com/
> glenn@graftonpiano.com
> 800-272-5980
>
> The box said "Requires Windows 95, or better." So I bought a Macintosh.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 15:06:28 -0500
> From: Newton Hunt <nhunt@optonline.net>
> Subject: Re: Pinbock thickness
>
> A thinner block will yield less pin / block contact area.  Pi*D*H
> where D=diameter and H=height.  Consider the total amount of contact
> area of the pin in the regular block and the amount in the thinner
> block.  Bear in mind you will have to use 1/2" shorter pins.  Now
> figure the % difference.
>
> Other than that, as long as you have the plate height set right, there
> will be little difference.
>
> Newton
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 14:28:19 -0600
> From: Ron Lindquist <ronli@newnorth.net>
> Subject: Dryburgh----Glue
>
> Would appreciate a address for Dryburge Adhesive Products,
> Inc.         Last one I had was 1-800-Glue-All.   Tryed it twice then call
> info.  No listing for them and no  other # but fax.   ????>
>
> Phone number is faster-----than address.  tks.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:26:59 -0800
> From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey@jps.net>
> Subject: Re: The Pitch Thing
>
> Well why don't you?  It won't bother us a bit...
>
> David I.
>
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
>
> On 3/4/01 at 4:25 AM Stephen Airy wrote:
>
> >OK, so maybe I'm weird, but....
> >
> >
> >I wouldn't mind having my personal piano tuned to
> >A-427 (quarter step flat), A-415(half step flat), or
> >even A-390 (full step flat)  on some occasions, and
> >I'm NOT talking about when it's in such bad condition
> >that tuning it to 440 will split the plate.
> >
> >
> >--- "Carol R. Beigel" <crbrpt@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
> >> Why do people want their pianos tuned to anything
> >> other than A440?  Why
> >> would they want A-442 or higher?  What is the sound
> >> that is trying to be
> >> achieved here?  Is is not true that a streteched
> >> tuning at A440 sounds just
> >> as "whatever" as a very clean (non-stretched) tuning
> >> at A442 or higher?
> >>
> >> Carol Beigel
> >> Greenbelt, Maryland
> >>
> >
> >
> >__________________________________________________
> >Do You Yahoo!?
> >Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail.
> >http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 15:14:01 -0500
> From: David Renaud <studiorenaud@qc.aibn.com>
> Subject: Re: Pinbock thickness
>
> The original pins were only 2 1/4 inches with
> only 1"3/8ths of pin actually in the block.
>
> Open faced block inserts through top of plate(router job and fussy
> fitting)
> , so no extra pin height required to clear the plate.
> So if I use the same size pin I am safe with a 1"1/2 inch block.
> The only concern so far assume problems with cheating on
> pins depth but this is not the case. I can go with original size pins.
>
> I thought a potential problem would be reducing contact with the
> flange but the distance from the top of the block to the bottom
> of the flange is 1 1/2 inches.
>
> I'm not sure why they went with such a thick block except that
> they had insert cut outs into the plate, and wanted extra, so ordered
> thick stuff. But they did not take advantage of the depth with longer
> pins.
>
>                                              Dave
>
> Newton Hunt wrote:
>
> > A thinner block will yield less pin / block contact area.  Pi*D*H
> > where D=diameter and H=height.  Consider the total amount of contact
> > area of the pin in the regular block and the amount in the thinner
> > block.  Bear in mind you will have to use 1/2" shorter pins.  Now
> > figure the % difference.
> >
> > Other than that, as long as you have the plate height set right, there
> > will be little difference.
> >
> >                 Newton
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 09:06:57 -0800
> From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey@jps.net>
> Subject: Re: $450.00 Bass strings???????
>
> Sacramento, California
>
> David I.
>
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
>
> On 3/4/01 at 4:04 PM Tom Driscoll wrote:
>
> >Subject: Re: $450.00 Bass strings???????
> >
> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>     By the way I sold the The remanufactured MASON BB  You saw at
Calif.
> >> convention.  Got good feedback from most(except for two Sacto. techs)No
> >can
> >> do like they can you know.(NOT EVEN GOD) nuff said
> >>
> >>   Thanks
> >>
> >>   Dale Erwin
> >>
> >> What is Sacto.?  Just curious. T.D.
>
> y
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 13:58:21 -0800
> From: "pianolover 88" <pianolover88@hotmail.com>
> Subject: strange FAC (SAT) numbers
>
> Setting up to tune a very old "Broadwood" grand over the weekend.
Partially
> rebuilt with new pinblock, pins and strings. However, I have a strong
> suspicion that the scaling was pretty poor. After muting the piano as
usual,
> i attempted to take the standard FAC measurments, (twice to make sure) but
> found the following numbers: 12, 2.4, 1.6! We obviously know that high
> numbers such as 23 for the F reading, followed by, for instance 8 and 12
> would indicate a poorly scaled piano...but what about excessively LOW
> numbers?
>
> Terry Peterson
> Precision Piano Service
> Torrance, CA
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:03:28 -0800
> From: "Erwinpiano" <Erwinpiano@email.msn.com>
> Subject: Fw: Pinbock thickness
>
>   Hi David,
>
>    Sounds like you've answered your own questoins and the ones I was
asking
> as well. Sounds like you have plenty of safty factor with original pin
> length.   I'VE ALSO DONE THESE uuuggghhhh. Drilled and plugged with buduc
> plugs in a 1873 stwy style 2.  The results were just like a new block and
> whole lot easier than fitting the compound flange fit and dealing with all
> that mortise garbage.  Who knows why the extra thickness. In this case
it's
> not needed and I can see no down side.  You didn't say how big or old this
> beast is.
>
>
>     Nice analysis.  Good luck
>     Dale Erwin
>
>
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Renaud" <studiorenaud@qc.aibn.com>
> To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 12:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Pinbock thickness
>
>
> > The original pins were only 2 1/4 inches with
> > only 1"3/8ths of pin actually in the block.
> >
> > Open faced block inserts through top of plate(router job and fussy
> > fitting)
> > , so no extra pin height required to clear the plate.
> > So if I use the same size pin I am safe with a 1"1/2 inch block.
> > The only concern so far assume problems with cheating on
> > pins depth but this is not the case. I can go with original size pins.
> >
> > I thought a potential problem would be reducing contact with the
> > flange but the distance from the top of the block to the bottom
> > of the flange is 1 1/2 inches.
> >
> > I'm not sure why they went with such a thick block except that
> > they had insert cut outs into the plate, and wanted extra, so ordered
> > thick stuff. But they did not take advantage of the depth with longer
> > pins.
> >
> >                                              Dave
> >
> > Newton Hunt wrote:
> >
> > > A thinner block will yield less pin / block contact area.  Pi*D*H
> > > where D=diameter and H=height.  Consider the total amount of contact
> > > area of the pin in the regular block and the amount in the thinner
> > > block.  Bear in mind you will have to use 1/2" shorter pins.  Now
> > > figure the % difference.
> > >
> > > Other than that, as long as you have the plate height set right, there
> > > will be little difference.
> > >
> > >                 Newton
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:04:14 -0600
> From: "James Grebe" <pianoman@inlink.com>
> Subject: Re: 'C' fork users only (inferior 'A' fork users need not apply)
>
> Hi Patrick,
>
> I tuned 18 years with my trusty C fork before I started using electronic
> (SOT,SAT, RCT).  I still in an emergency use my trusty C temperament as it
> served me well and why learn another system when you are comfortable with
> one that already works.  Yes, there are purists who say that the A
> temperament will work better and maybe so for some applications but I am a
> bread and butter type tuner and set in my ways.
>
>
> It is not the method , but the results when you are done that count.
> Jim
>                            James Grebe
> R.P.T. of the P.T.G
> pianoman@inlink.com
> Creator of Handsome Hardwood Caster Cups and Practical Piano Benches  in
St.
> Louis, MO
> (314) 845-8282
> 1526 Raspberry Lane
> Arnold, MO 63010
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick Greene" <greeneguy63@mindspring.com>
> To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 7:20 PM
> Subject: Re: 'C' fork users only (inferior 'A' fork users need not apply)
>
>
> > I still use the C temp.  I always wondered what you called the method I
> use.
> > I use that method, but a couple of my tuner friends have told me that it
> is
> > out dated and the A temp is better.  I am worried that if I try to learn
> it
> > now, it will hinder my current tuning skills.  What do you think?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: thepianoarts <thepianoarts@home.com>
> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 5:11 PM
> > Subject: 'C' fork users only (inferior 'A' fork users need not apply)
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Just kidding you overly sensitive 'A' fork users!
> > >
> > >  Any "C" fork users care to exchange temperment checks and patterns
etc?
> > I
> > >  have been trying to evolve the 'Up three thirds, down a fifth, up two
> > > thirds" etc. temperment taught from the Aubrey Willis course 25 years
> ago.
> > > Anyone on the list using this pattern? BTW, after 25 years with the
> fork,
> > I
> > > moved to the Sanderson Accu-fork. It has some advantages. Their
> beat-rater
> > > is also a nice tool for checking contigious thirds.
> > >
> > > Dan Reed
> > >  Dallas chapter
> > >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 17:09:25 -0500
> From: Newton Hunt <nhunt@optonline.net>
> Subject: Re: Pinbock thickness
>
> If you use the same length pin ok.  If you use 1/4" shorter pins you
> will loose 18.18% contact area between pin and block.  Hmmmm.
>
> Newton
>
> David Renaud wrote:
> >
> > The original pins were only 2 1/4 inches with
> > only 1"3/8ths of pin actually in the block.
> >
> > Open faced block inserts through top of plate(router job and fussy
> > fitting)
> > , so no extra pin height required to clear the plate.
> > So if I use the same size pin I am safe with a 1"1/2 inch block.
> > The only concern so far assume problems with cheating on
> > pins depth but this is not the case. I can go with original size pins.
> >
> > I thought a potential problem would be reducing contact with the
> > flange but the distance from the top of the block to the bottom
> > of the flange is 1 1/2 inches.
> >
> > I'm not sure why they went with such a thick block except that
> > they had insert cut outs into the plate, and wanted extra, so ordered
> > thick stuff. But they did not take advantage of the depth with longer
> > pins.
> >
> >                                              Dave
> >
> > Newton Hunt wrote:
> >
> > > A thinner block will yield less pin / block contact area.  Pi*D*H
> > > where D=diameter and H=height.  Consider the total amount of contact
> > > area of the pin in the regular block and the amount in the thinner
> > > block.  Bear in mind you will have to use 1/2" shorter pins.  Now
> > > figure the % difference.
> > >
> > > Other than that, as long as you have the plate height set right, there
> > > will be little difference.
> > >
> > >                 Newton
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 17:39:48 -0500
> From: Newton Hunt <nhunt@optonline.net>
> Subject: Re: strange FAC (SAT) numbers
>
> Excessive low inharmonicity.   THis piano has a thin and less robust
> tone than our "modern" pianos have.  Tone image was different then
> than now.  Don't worry about it, just tune it and it will sound nice.
> and for the sake of us all don't try to change it.
>
> Newton
>
> pianolover 88 wrote:
> >
> > Setting up to tune a very old "Broadwood" grand over the weekend.
Partially
> > rebuilt with new pinblock, pins and strings. However, I have a strong
> > suspicion that the scaling was pretty poor. After muting the piano as
usual,
> > i attempted to take the standard FAC measurments, (twice to make sure)
but
> > found the following numbers: 12, 2.4, 1.6! We obviously know that high
> > numbers such as 23 for the F reading, followed by, for instance 8 and 12
> > would indicate a poorly scaled piano...but what about excessively LOW
> > numbers?
> >
> > Terry Peterson
> > Precision Piano Service
> > Torrance, CA
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 17:36:34 -0500
> From: Newton Hunt <nhunt@optonline.net>
> Subject: Re: Dryburgh----Glue
>
> 1-800-GLU-EALL works just fine.  Ed told me (when I called the number)
> that his phones have been in and out all day, from the (minor) storm
> we have had so far.
>
> Try it again.
>
> Newton  (CA advocate)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:56:30 -0600
> From: "Dr. Joseph Chen" <joe.chen@utoronto.ca>
> Subject: [none]
>
> I would appreciate any response regarding a Heinzman Grand(5' 5") from
1912.
> It is in need of major overhaul and is not playable right now.  I will
need
> new keys/hammers/strings/etc.  The overall construction is very solid and
> the frame, plate and the sound board have no visible flaws.  Any amount of
> woodwork is mostly cosmetic rather than structural.
>
> How does one go about assessing the value of this piano when it is in this
> condition?
> What is the fair market value of this piano if it is reconditioning and
> rebuilt properly?
>  Joe
> Toronto
> March 5, 2001
>
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>
> End of pianotech-digest V2001 #295
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>
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