When I have plugged and used epoxy, I used the West System with a fairly thick mixture of their #??? high-strength adhesive filler. I made the holes bigger than the plugs so that there was a gap between plug and block material. I probably drilled a 9/16" hole for a 1/2" plug. I did that because I was concerned about keeping glue on all areas of the plug. I feared areas of no glue if I went for a tight fit with some other kind of glue/adhesive. Maybe its not realistic concern. But hey, for me, it was. Terry Farrell Piano Tuning & Service Tampa, Florida mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Delwin D Fandrich" <pianobuilders@olynet.com> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 10:18 AM Subject: Re: Pinblock Plugs > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Farrell" <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org> > Sent: March 13, 2001 4:05 AM > Subject: Re: Pinblock Plugs > > > > The epoxy I have used, and I believe what Roger Jolly uses, is West System > > epoxy - and the entire philosophy of its engineering is to bond wood. It > was > > originally designed for cold molding wooden boats together. West System > > becomes one with the wood. > > > > But, I like your ideas. Especially the Weldwood Plastic Resin Glue. I have > > used that in many other applications in the past a like it quite a bit. It > > would certainly be easier to use in this application. All the gooey epoxy > > was a bit problematic for me and can easily see that the Weldwood would be > > easier. There are so many very good glues out there, that sometimes I find > > it easy to forget one that you haven't used for a while! > > --------------------------------------------- > > You might want to consider the fit of the plugs as you consider your choice > of adhesive. So-called 'plastic resin' glues (usually a member of a broad > classification of adhesives otherwise known as phenol-formaldehyde > adhesives) require a very nice, tight fit between the joined members. As a > class they are notoriously very poor gap-fillers. > > Epoxy, on the other hand, is probably one of the best gap-filling adhesives > known. It is also known for its inter-penetrating abilities -- especially > the water-thin varieties -- and is the only wood adhesive known for its > exceptional ability to form any bond strength at all when used with two > end-grain wood members -- as you will have with wood pinblock plugs. > > Now, having said that, I have only rarely plugged a pinblock, preferring to > replace them whenever possible. And with the types of pianos I work on it is > nearly always possible even if I have to conduct a bit of surgery to get the > casework apart. > > Joe, on the other hand, often works on pianos that are even older than he > is. And it sounds like he already has quite a bit more experience plugging > than I will probably ever have. > > So. You pays your money and takes your chances. > > Del > > >
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