>If you'll make a drawing of the S&S tuning pin arrangement as designed and >installed, lo these past 100+ years, you'll find that there is just about no >way to keep the pins from contacting the plate. So it seems. I had assumed for a long time that that big pin back angle was a head start on block compression, since it's so inevitable with this block. It does indeed seem to be intentional, though I still don't think much of the approach - which leads us to Baldwin. With their immortal and incompressible granite block, the pins obviously don't need the plate to stop them from rotating right out of the block. The plate's not much harder than the block anyway. These are the pianos I have the most trouble with when pins ride the plate because of, I think, the lack of resilience in the block. I presume the Baldwin system is a combination of leftover "S&S me too", and an unrealistic assessment of the relative merits of the new block (IE: bury for three years, dig up and tune - boil and tune - place in living room and be nearly untunable). I know they are drilling the plate holes bigger now, which is long overdue and a positive move in my opinion. Ron N
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