Sharp organ

[Joseph Garrett]

Roger,
I agree with you regarding the organ being a marvelous instrument. However,
It's taken untold centuries to get the piano IN the Sanctuary and I do NOT,
in any way, subscribe to the idea of taking it out!!!! The piano and the
organ can coexist if all parties know the limitations of both. As for making
a joyful noise unto the ....., that belongs on another list, IMHO.
Regards,
Joe Garrett
----- Original Message -----
From: "jolly roger" <baldyam@sk.sympatico.ca>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: Sharp organ


> Hi Joe,
>             I did not intend to pick, as I know it's a perenial problem
> with churches.  Communication is key, with the music people, pipe organ
> tech, and piano tech.  Education has to go along with it.  other wise you
> end up with the he said, she said game. A lose, lose, scenerio. I have
been
> in the middle of those kinds of things, and also part of the problem.  A
> little older and some what wiser.  I insist on having the 3 parties meet.
> So solutions can be found.  Many of the pipe organ techs will also lay
down
> a different bearing  (temperament)  than our standard  ET. Flue Work for
> instance has a very strong fundamental and less harmonic development than
> the principal chorus. And both are quite different than piano strings, in
> any given register.
> Team work is the answer if it can be fostered.   Bare in mind, that much
of
> the beauty of a pipe organ, is it's space, and out of tuneness.  Add
reverb
> time into the mix, and the game gets thicker. The big 16ft pipes are
> usually a long way away from the piano.
> For me, get rid of the pianos in churches, and let us make a Joyful noise
> unto the Lord.  With a real pipe organ.  <G>
> Just some thoughts on the subject.
> Regards roger
>
>
>
>
> At 02:24 PM 5/13/01 -0700, you wrote:
> >Roger,
> >Since you bi-directed this posting at me, I'll respond.
> >I was not "after" the Organ Tech!, but his lack of analysis of this
> >particular church situation. If he had ascertained the ambient temp/hum
that
> >the church is "normally" at and achieved that before the final tuning of
the
> >organ, I think that the organ would have been a little closer to A=440.
Part
> >of the equation hasn't been discussed. Where Jeannie is, is right on the
> >ocean. I suspect that while the organ tech was installing, etc.  the hall
> >was kept at a comfortable level for his benefit. Once he finished, the
> >church went back to it's normal habit of not heating or cooling. IMHO the
> >organ tech should have a long conversation with the powers that be, at
the
> >church, and emphasize the importance of constant temp/Humid conditions.
> >There lies the problem. My original comment was too short.(for that I
> >apologize) The best thing is IMHO to get the organ tech to retune the
whole
> >enchilada while the church is in it's normal temp/humid mode. Then, at
least
> >Jeannie won't have to tune the piano 12-15cents sharp and possibly more.
If
> >the organ "floats" a little sharp and a little flat, with the average at
> >A=440, then it would be acceptable.
> >Regards,
> >Joe Garrett
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "jolly roger" <baldyam@sk.sympatico.ca>
> >To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> >Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 11:00 AM
> >Subject: Re: Sharp organ
>
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