Tuning with Key

Isaac OLEG SIMANOT oleg-i@wanadoo.fr
Mon, 15 Oct 2001 00:45:10 +0200


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hello,

Its not turning indeed, but if we can call that bend it is not enough to
disturb the pin placement. We utilize the springiness of the pin to check if
all the parts of the string had rendered well and  are in a stable state.

You push gently down and up on the lever (grand piano) and hear one of the
string moves a little (the unison color change) , you leave the lever and
the sound may be the same than before you push. If not that is because some
segment of the string was not stable.

When you have the habit you can do the movement and hear very quickly,
somebody see you think you are shaking the lever , but it is not, you just
check if your strings will stay there !

This method (hearing 2 strings together) is very accurate too to change the
pitch of the first string you tune, in temperament or expanding octaves It
is easier to hear small differences in pitch between 2 strings, besides, if
i.e. your F -A third is slow and you want to add 1 beat, if you hear one
beat between the string you tune and the other, you know you will add 1 beat
at your third.

That is also a quick method to tune 2 string basses, add the missing beat
(from your octave) between the 2 bass strings, check, then tune the bass
unison

That is why it is good to tune unisons while making temperament, the little
moves are easy to do with 2 strings.

When I check any interval, it is most of the time 2 strings vs. 2 others.

For the playing hand, the best thing is to found a good firm enough sound,
and repeat it always the same all along the piano. What I believe too is
that you can have good results playing softly (but firm) if you wish, this
time you have to synchronize the lever movement and the attack more.

Usually, I live the pin twisted so if the string may move it will go sharp,
not flat (it does not hear so much).

A few years ago I used to live the pin un twisted, but I fell now that there
is some kind of 'knot' between the pin trying to un twist, and the string
trying to go the other way.

Anyway it is always more important to live the string stable.

Hope you can read me.

friendly

Isaac OLEG




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De : owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]De la part de
Ola Andersson
Envoyé : dimanche 14 octobre 2001 21:15
À : pianotech@ptg.org
Objet : SV: Tuning with Key


  Hi Isaac

  Intresting thoughts you have
  I guess I'm on the right track then

  I don't understand this
    I've learned to push the lever high and low gently to check if the
string is stabilized, the change in color may come back where it was in the
first time if everything is stable.

    Hope that helps.
    Isaac OLEG
  Do you mean turn the pin or bend the pin?

  Thanks

  Ola Andersson
  Norway





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