SATlll vs Verituner

[David Love]

I have not used one but my impression is that it samples as it goes and
therefore customizes the tuning at each note.  But users will have to
veritune that.  (ha ha)

David Love


----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Brekne" <Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: October 27, 2001 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: SATlll vs Verituner


> I keep hearing this kind of comment from Veritune users.... shall I say...
> converts.. and it begs an answer to how this can be....how can it be that
a
> Verituner tuning is significantly better then a RCT, SAT, or other tuning
aid
> tuning ?
>
> There are only three really possiblities it seems...
>
> 1.  It doesnt really... its all in the users imagination
> 2. The hardware is much better (this seems doubtfull... or what)
> 3. The basic approach... (tuning algorithm) is inherently a better one.
>
> If the third is indeed the case.. then we get right smack into the degree
of
> validity the single partial based tuning curve really has, and also right
into
> one of the arguements given by ear tuners that really never has been
> satisfactorilly answered.
>
> I think it may be time to find some really truely objective manner in
which to
> evalute tunings and do a tuneoff based on those critera... Not for the
purpose
> of justifying the use of ETD's or to do the opposite... but to learn more
about
> what a good tuning really is.
>
> Myself, after useing RCT and Tunelab for over two years now... I more and
more
> find the resultant tuning lacking..  oh its more evenly spaced (especially
in
> the treble) then I can do without great effort.......but that seems to be
the
> problem... that particular form of eveness seems to lack some character
and
> definition...some clarity... dont really know how to describe it.... but
> leaving the basic idea of  "how to tune a piano according to SAT and RCT"
seems
> to leave me with a better sounding piano. And not just according to my own
ears
> apparently...but thats another story.
>
>
>
>
>
> Isaac OLEG SIMANOT wrote:
>
> > I use the Verituner since 1 month.
> >
> > I find its use much more natural than other EDT I have used too (SAT II
and
> > RCT).
> >
> > The tunings need less tweaking, and a custom mode allow to define
patterns
> > you can apply to a model or a type of piano (did not use these yet).
> >
> > Never had a temperament problem (but + or - stretch) in temperament
zone.
> >
> > The tunings are astonishing, even on bad scales pianos.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > Isaac OLEG
> >
> >
>
> --
> Richard Brekne
> RPT, N.P.T.F.
> Bergen, Norway
> mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no
>
>