Hi everyone, Just some stray thoughts that stuck in the cranium this morning. When tuning (using any method, aural or not) the temperament first, and then matching the octaves after that, we make the assumption that the temperament octave is "right". So, as we move into the bass, and start finding 3rds that won't progress right, allowing clean octaves, we begin to monkey around with specific intervals finding the best compromise. Ultimately, in some instances, we may decide that the scaling is to blame, and that's the best this piano is going to sound. Most intervals have a little "slush" to them. You know, the width can change a little and still be acceptable, if not ideal. I think using traditional methods of tuning, (everything but the Verituner) a tuner can get "stuck" by what's been tuned previously, and run into intervals that refuse to match all that's been tuned already. Without knowing what notes to change how much, it quickly becomes cost prohibitive to make the tuning REALLY work, so the tuning is compromised. When using the Verituner in fine-tune mode, every note that has been tuned is 'set in stone' and the rest of the new notes are calculated as you go. If a tuner is going to use a single-pass method, THEN the tuning sequence becomes an issue, because the Verituner only gets one chance to hear each note and fit a tuning based on the measurements. I believe that this approach to tuning misses the real advantage of the Verituner, at least until that same piano is tuned again using a saved tuning. If, however, a tuner adopts a two-pass tuning style, using the coarse (pitch raise) tuning mode, the Verituner has the chance to hear all 76 notes needed to make a complete tuning before locking in any notes. I haven't found the Coarse mode a problem, because the whole purpose of the first time through is to get the pitch close, and let the Verituner become 'acquainted' with this particular piano. So the simple 'needle' style without any spinner has been quicker for me to follow. I'm guessing at this point, but I THINK the reason the Verituner calculates superior tunings, is that it capitalizes on a two pass tunings to make small adjustments all over so that the over all tuning matches much better than when attempting to use a single pass calculation, and correcting as you tune. Make any sense at all? Ron Koval Chicagoland _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
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