Terry wrote: Yup, this is what I currently do (or at least what I will admit to doing). If one is using an ETD and offsets, this is clearly the superior way to do it. But I am talking about walking into someones home and putting a non-ET tuning on their piano. I wish to avoid tuning the the whole piano to ET, and then starting over and tuning it to a non-ET. This comes down to: Can you trust your machine? Do you feel that you can get a good tuning, based on samples, checked with tuning a few notes? If you're not sure, or have to monkey with the tuning at the break to get it right, it may be time to try a different system. Look back in the archives, (search for graphman) I posted a series of graphs showing cents from pure for the major thirds in circle of fifths order for many temperaments. Vallotti, Vallotti-Young, and Young are all pretty 'strong' for experimentation. Try this for tone color without 'train wrecks': (mild well temperament with equal beating characteristics) cents offsets from et A 0 A# .6 B -1.4 C 2.7 C# -1.3 D 1.8 D# 1.8 E -.2 F 1.7 F# -1.5 G 3.8 G# 0 This should get you close to an EBVT that Bill Bremmer uses, without the important aspect of tempered octaves. Play major chords in circle of fifths order. Can you hear rising tension to around to F#? Can you hear a reduction of tension coming back up to C? That will give you an idea if you tuned it right! good luck Ron Koval (graphman) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
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