Stretch Vs.Temperament, (was Beat Rates)

[Richard Moody]

There was a hand out from the Chicago class.  If I had permission
I would gladly type it in.  Or if it already exists in digital
form that would save some time.  I can tell you, reading the
handout without attending the class will produce a completely
different impression than attending the class and later on
re-reading the notes.
    What I mean is, you sit in the class and watch and listen to
Virgil tune.  You don't read the handout at that time because
 it would take away from watching and listening to Virgil
tune which you compare with how you tune.   Reading the hand out
later I see some explanations that make me think "Oh he
verbalizes it differently than I would."  Except for not using a
temp strip and the F3--D 6th  Virgil tunes the same as I was
taught.  (I wish I had have been taught the F D sixth.)   I would
like to see him do a whole class on this.  There would have to be
at least 3 pianos I suppose.    ---ric m


----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Brekne <Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: Stretch Vs.Temperament, (was Beat Rates)


> Well I for one would love to read through any more specifics
> you have on Virgils tuning style. Thanks for the posting.
>
> RicB
>
> Richard Moody wrote:
> >
> > > Watch Virgil tune. (Reno convention). . I didn't know
> > > enough to really understand Dr. Sanderson's explanation of
his
> > tuning.
> > > any one else take that class?
> > > Keith R
> >
> > I was in Virgil's class in Reno.    I didn't stay for Dr.
> > Sanderson's class that followed.
> >     If you are asking  about Virgil's class, in that one he
> > demonstrated stretching octaves as proved by the 3rd-10th
test.
> > or the 3rd-- 10th --17th test.  It was much quicker to hear
the
> > 10th or the 17 than listen for the slightly faster octave.
He
> > used 4ths to check 5ths.  He tuned by 5ths and 3rds.
> > I will have to check my notes but I remember he tuned A4--A3
> > first, then A4--D4, then F3--D4 6th.   Then he compared F3-A3
and
> > made adjustments.
> > I can dig up my notes if you are interested in more.  He tunes
> > with no temperament strip.  He tunes one string to the note
> > already tuned and tunes the second string.  Then he tests.  If
he
> > makes corrections he raises or lowers the string the amount
> > according to the test and tunes the second string.  Then he
> > listens and if OK tunes the 3rd string to the unison.
> >
> > A video of this would be invaluable to those learning or to
those
> > learned comparing notes.  A few issues ago the Guild was
saying
> > they need more money.   They could get a bit more out of me
for
> > videos of SOME of the classes at the convention.  Unless
Virgil
> > objects to being video  taped, this is an invaluable tuning
> > demonstration, and I would gladly buy it.
> >
> > ---ric
> >
> >