Pitch Raises ... Multiple Passes?

[Alan R. Barnard]

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Hope you didn't read any criticism into my message, I was just =
commenting on the many different percentages that have been thrown about =
in this thread.

Now you have REALLY tweaked my interest: Tuning a piano in 20 mins? I =
don't think I could even randomly turn all the pins in that much time. I =
am, admittedly, quite slow (I have only been doing this for about 2 =
years, don't have very many customers, and my ADD doesn't help me stay =
focused on repetitive tasks like unison setting) but tell me, tell me =
anything that might help speed things up ...

My Tibetan is a little known local dialect from around the Lungmug pass =
which, incidentally, is the area of the headwaters of the Mekong River =
(Dza chu) and the village of Chamdo.


Alan R. Barnard

P.S. Freely translated, "Yabut"  means "Yeah, but..." :-}
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  From: Kevin E. Ramsey=20
  To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
  Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 9:01 PM
  Subject: Re: Pitch Raises ... Multiple Passes?


      Alan, I didn't know you spoke Tibetan..... Yabut to you too.=20

      Dr. Al recommends 20% in the bass, I tried it, and it really works =
for me. He is published as saying he recommends 33% percent in the =
treble. I tried it on a whole bunch of pianos and piano styles and =
sizes, and it has always left the treble too sharp. Notice, I didn't say =
too sharp for my own personal taste,  but too sharp according to his own =
machine.=20
      All I can tell you, is everything I try to put out here on this =
list are things that I definitely have given great thought to, and done =
a lot of research and experimentation on. I don't know anywhere near as =
much about soundboards and piano construction as people like Del and Ron =
Nossaman, I don't know as much about action geometry as Roger and many =
others on this list,( although I do know a whole lot about actions and =
regulating them.) But one thing I'm sure of is how to take a piano and =
bring it up from "horrible" to a concert level tuning in the shortest =
amount of time. I have to know how to do it, I'm one of the people in =
the sixth largest city in the USA who is the one up there that's given a =
little over a half hour to get the piano ready after it's sat under =
blowing air conditioning for four hours. I have to know how to do it, =
and what works, and what doesn't.
      Whew! Glad I got that one off my chest, I had to do just that in =
twenty minutes last night at a concert here. Show up at 5:00, hoping to =
get in early. The bands running late, and they do a sound check and =
generally goof off up there as long as possible, and I finally get less =
than 1/2 hour to put my "sweetest tuning" quote ( from the keyboardist) =
on it. Meanwhile, the stagehands are yelling "point it left, no too =
far,, the other way,, no I mean your OTHER LEFT)  you get the idea. =
Sorry about the rant, but I really do know what I'm talking about, =
believe it or don't.=20

      And in parting,,,, Batwa.  <G>
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    From: Alan R. Barnard=20
    To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
    Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 7:45 AM
    Subject: Re: Pitch Raises ... Multiple Passes?


    Yabut....

    Dr. Sanderson, inventor of the SAT, recommends 20% on wound strings, =
33% for the first six plain-wire unisons, then 25% to the top.=20

    Since others have success with slightly different percentages, it =
seems (and is interesting) that the exact percentage or location in the =
piano is not all that critical a factor ...=20

    Alan Barnard

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