This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/related attachment ------=_NextPart_001_000F_01C24B94.1C3566E0 P.S. Freely translated, "Yabut" means "Yeah, but..." :-} I knew that Alan, I was just being obstinate.=20 That twenty minute tuning isn't known as a Concert Tuning From a = Master Technician type of tuning believe me. It's more of a "Oh my God, = look at the time, how will I ever,,,,,I hope it's not too bad..." type = of exercise in pure horror. Actually, when doing one of these types of = things, as the clock ticks down to zero hour, you start taking items off = the mental inventory table of things you normally do. When It get's any = shorter than 20 minutes or so, we're looking at cleaning up unisons, and = any octaves that really stand out. In my opinion, a concert tuning is = where I have at least four hours to go over the piano and address = tuning, voicing, and regulation issues. In this instance, I checked the = overall pitch, which was really close, set up my SAT, started at A4, = checked the width of the temperament octave and away we went, tuning = down from there to the bottom, fudging octaves as I went. Then I go back = to A4, set the machine at A3, and started tuning custom stretch octaves = up to about d#5, then I set the machine at E3 and tune leaving the notes = a couple of cents sharp. I get up to B6, with the machine set at B4, = after tuning it, I take the machine up to B6, if it agrees with what I = have done, then I know I'm in the ball park for the stretch I like and = buzz through the top octave. After that it's pull all those unisons in = as quick as I can, and when I'm done I play four octaves chromatically = through the center of the piano to the top octave, looking for anything = that isn't a smooth progression. That's my quick tuning technique.=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Alan R. Barnard=20 To: pianotech@ptg.org=20 Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 11:39 AM Subject: Re: Pitch Raises ... Multiple Passes? Hope you didn't read any criticism into my message, I was just = commenting on the many different percentages that have been thrown about = in this thread. Now you have REALLY tweaked my interest: Tuning a piano in 20 mins? I = don't think I could even randomly turn all the pins in that much time. I = am, admittedly, quite slow (I have only been doing this for about 2 = years, don't have very many customers, and my ADD doesn't help me stay = focused on repetitive tasks like unison setting) but tell me, tell me = anything that might help speed things up ... My Tibetan is a little known local dialect from around the Lungmug = pass which, incidentally, is the area of the headwaters of the Mekong = River (Dza chu) and the village of Chamdo. Alan R. Barnard P.S. Freely translated, "Yabut" means "Yeah, but..." :-} ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kevin E. Ramsey=20 To: pianotech@ptg.org=20 Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 9:01 PM Subject: Re: Pitch Raises ... Multiple Passes? Alan, I didn't know you spoke Tibetan..... Yabut to you too.=20 Dr. Al recommends 20% in the bass, I tried it, and it really = works for me. He is published as saying he recommends 33% percent in the = treble. I tried it on a whole bunch of pianos and piano styles and = sizes, and it has always left the treble too sharp. Notice, I didn't say = too sharp for my own personal taste, but too sharp according to his own = machine.=20 All I can tell you, is everything I try to put out here on this = list are things that I definitely have given great thought to, and done = a lot of research and experimentation on. I don't know anywhere near as = much about soundboards and piano construction as people like Del and Ron = Nossaman, I don't know as much about action geometry as Roger and many = others on this list,( although I do know a whole lot about actions and = regulating them.) But one thing I'm sure of is how to take a piano and = bring it up from "horrible" to a concert level tuning in the shortest = amount of time. I have to know how to do it, I'm one of the people in = the sixth largest city in the USA who is the one up there that's given a = little over a half hour to get the piano ready after it's sat under = blowing air conditioning for four hours. I have to know how to do it, = and what works, and what doesn't. =20 ------=_NextPart_001_000F_01C24B94.1C3566E0 An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/11/c3/dc/90/attachment.htm ------=_NextPart_001_000F_01C24B94.1C3566E0-- ---------------------- multipart/related attachment A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 2173 bytes Desc: not available Url : https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/2c/60/06/fd/attachment.gif ---------------------- multipart/related attachment--
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