Verituner Users

Isaac OLEG SIMANOT oleg-i@wanadoo.fr
Fri, 22 Feb 2002 22:21:45 +0100


Greg,

Sorry if I was misunderstood.
I basically say that any good tuner can have help with a machine, and
produce beautiful tunings.

VT 100 helps to produce tunings with less tweaking and far better
homogeneity and beauty.

The average customers will not notice that, but I, as a tuner, like to have
this result on a regular basis.

For the average customer too, a beautifully tuned piano is far easier to
play, don't know why but it is.

I said too that no comparison is possible between a real time analysis, by
ear/brain or electronic, and results based on assumptions,.

I personally had the impression that tuning while looking at one partial
tend to change the way I was hearing, focusing on that partial more than
needed. I've hear very perfect tunings made on a 3 partial curve that where
sounding in perpetual expansion, as if no real foundation exists, only a
temperament all along the piano. Organ player call that "Swiss tunings"
(because of the clocks)

With the VT100 you have a maximum focus on partial matching, including all
partials together, and beats are computed (estimated), in the model, it is a
more musical approach my opinion.

Regards.

Isaac OLEG

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]De la part
> de Greg Newell
> Envoye : jeudi 21 fevrier 2002 23:27
> A : pianotech@ptg.org
> Objet : Re: Verituner Users
>
>
> Isaac,
>     I'm sorry. I'm afraid that I don't follow your thoughts here.
> Could you
> possibly restate your ideas? Something lost in the translation perhaps.
>
> Greg
>
> Isaac OLEG SIMANOT wrote:
>
> > Stop misinformation please.
> >
> > Not any system without real time spectrum analysis can get the
> same result.
> >
> > The only difference is in the tuner ability to produce
> beautiful tunings,
> > with one help or another.
> >
> > Then , who is able to hear that beauty ?
> >
> > Isaac OLEG
> >
> > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > De : owner-pianotech@ptg.org
[mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]De la part
> > de Greg Newell
> > Envoye : jeudi 21 fevrier 2002 22:00
> > A : pianotech@ptg.org
> > Objet : Re: Verituner Users
> >
> >
> > List,
> >     I find it interesting that folks are willing to consider such
> > an expensive stand alone tool when TuneLab is available at such
> > an extremely reasonable cost.
> > Even with the cost of a laptop which does so much more than the
> > "one trick pony" the price is still very comparable. If one goes
> > for the pocket PC Tunelab can't
> > be beat. Did everyone miss Dr. Jim's comparison when it was
> > declared that there wasn't much of a difference in the result
> > between SAT, Veritune and TuneLab?
> > Someone please help me understand the rational of spending more
> > money being good.
> > respectfully,
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > Farrell wrote:
> >
> > > For those using the Verituner: How reliable are they. How
> > durable are they. What kind of turn-around time have you
> > experienced from the manufacturer. Thanks.
> > >
> > > Terry Farrell
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Greg Newell
> > mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net
> >
> >
> >

--
Greg Newell
mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net





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