Knots to you

[Joe And Penny Goss]

When one ties a square knot with string (not wire) if you think either;
Left over and under right - right over and under left,
or right over and under left - left over and under right - you will have
tied a square knot,
So when tieing wire if the two ends are held with the wire  in the same
pisition with the ends either both up or down when making the loop and the
loop end passes on the same side, when joining the two ends one end will be
reversed making the square knot.
If the loop ends are made reversed with the ends pointing the same
direction, when reversed to form the knot it will be a granny.
Joe Goss
imatunr@srvinet.com
www.mothergoosetools.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farrell" <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: Knot Tying, was: An Awesome Moment


> Regarding tying knots in wire. I'm not very good at it either, but I do
manage to get the job done when I need to. One little "trick" I use is to
keep my "cheat sheet" in my string box. I scanned the knot tying pictures -
I think I found them in Reblitz - and keep the sheet in my box. I open that
rascal up every time I tie a knot. I figure it's always better to double
check and make sure the little end is going through the right loop in the
right direction, etc. I think I have only had one or two slip on me - likely
goofed up even with my sheet. Usually works real well though.
>
> Terry Farrell
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Farrell" <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com>
> To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 11:41 PM
> Subject: Re: An Awesome Moment
>
>
> > Awesome indeed! And I'll bet you will learn to tie an awesome knot in a
piano wire in the future! Congrats!
> >
> > Terry Farrell
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Carol R. Beigel" <crbrpt@bellatlantic.net>
> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 11:02 PM
> > Subject: An Awesome Moment
> >
> >
> > > I sometimes think that if I was a piano salesperson, and someone came
into
> > > my store looking to spend a few hundred dollars on a used instrument,
that I
> > > would show them the finest, most magnificent piano in the store,
first.  I
> > > would want them to hear the magnificence and beauty of this unique
> > > instrument, and let them decide for themselves how much they want to
> > > compromise.  How can someone be taught quality if they never see or
hear it?
> > >
> > > We tell people who want to join our profession to acquire an old
upright and
> > > practice repair and regulation.  Then we ask them to practice tuning
on it!
> > > Perhaps if we took this aspiring piano technician to the symphony and
had
> > > them listen to a piano concerto played by someone who could really
play the
> > > piano, they would see what an awesome profession this can be.  They
would
> > > know from the beginning what the top skill level could produce.  Maybe
they
> > > would not settle for less than RPT.
> > >
> > > For the past 24 years, I have been trying to learn to be a competent
piano
> > > technician.  The mechanical part of our profession, with the exception
of
> > > tying a knot is piano wire, has seemed to come fairly easily to me,
but
> > > learning to tune a piano has been the hardest thing I ever learned to
do.
> > > It is the only endeavor that I ever failed at - flunking the tuning
exam at
> > > least four times during my first 6 years in the business.  I have
never
> > > forgotten those failed exams, and they have always been in the back of
my
> > > mind - creating a lingering doubt that I might not be up to standard
when it
> > > really counted.
> > >
> > > This weekend I attended the first full symphony orchestra concert in
my
> > > adult life.  I heard my first piano concerto.  I met my first
professional
> > > pianist.  I heard my tuning on a concert hall stage for the first
time.  It
> > > was an awesome moment in my life.  I guess I better learn to tie a
knot in
> > > piano wire!
> > >
> > > Carol Beigel, RPT
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>