VT/RCT/TLpro data

[Greg Newell]

Ron,
    Why are the Veritune's numbers not the same in both comparison examples?

Greg

Ron Koval wrote:

> First off, thanks to everyone for all the nice words of encouragement.  My
> wife and I appreciate it.  I'll let you know as we find out any information.
>
> Here is the experiment for today.  I don't have a SAT, so it is not
> represented in this test.  To compare the machine calculations, I used each
> in it's default mode and followed printed directions to sample notes and
> create a tuning.  Same piano, in a practice room.  Since RCT and TLpro use
> different default partials, direct comparison is not possible. VT lists
> multiple partials, so I can list RCT/VT and TLpro/VT.
>
> partial/RCT#/VT# (from A0 to C8)
>
> 6___-11.18__-17.33
> 6___-10.25__-16.05
> 6___-9.41___-15.32
> 6___-8.63___-13.32
> 6___-7.89___-14.85
> 6___-7.20___-16.50
> 6___-6.55___-15.99
> 6___-5.96___-14.68
> 6___-5.40___-13.36
> 6___-4.87___-12.07
> 6___-4.36___-11.24
> 6___-3.88___-10.11
> 6___-3.45____-9.47
> 6___-3.02____-8.16
> 6___-2.61____-6.29
> 6___-2.29____-4.44
> 6___-1.96____-5.38
> 6___-1.66____-6.57
> 6___-1.38____-6.12
> 6___-1.08____-5.40
> 6___-0.77____-4.69
> 6___-0.41____-3.81
> 6___-0.05____-2.94
> 6____0.40____-2.13
> 3___-2.08____-7.42
> 3___-1.67____-6.23
> 3___-1.28____-4.49
> 3___-1.00____-2.75
> 3___-0.75____-3.81
> 3___-0.52____-5.11
> 3___-0.32____-4.78
> 3___-0.11____-4.19
> 3____0.12____-3.59
> 3____0.41____-2.82
> 3____0.69____-2.08
> 3____1.09____-1.38
> 3____1.53____-1.17
> 3____2.01____-0.88
> 3____2.53____-0.56
> 3____3.14____-0.21
> 3____3.83_____0.15
> 3____4.51_____0.53
> 3____5.22_____0.94
> 3____5.97_____1.39
> 3____6.75_____1.86
> 3____7.52_____2.33
> 3____8.30_____2.82
> 3____9.07_____3.36
> 2____2.98_____1.45
> 2____3.49_____1.48
> 2____4.03_____1.57
> 2____4.36_____1.74
> 2____4.78_____1.97
> 2____5.07_____2.24
> 2____5.39_____2.57
> 2____5.81_____3.08
> 2____6.31_____3.74
> 2____7.01_____4.34
> 2____7.69_____5.02
> 2____8.75_____5.97
> 1____4.25_____1.75
> 1____4.82_____1.80
> 1____5.44_____1.95
> 1____6.13_____2.20
> 1____6.92_____2.54
> 1____7.68_____2.95
> 1____8.47_____3.44
> 1____9.35_____4.04
> 1___10.26_____4.71
> 1___11.21_____5.40
> 1___12.16_____6.14
> 1___13.19_____6.93
> 1___14.32_____7.75
> 1___15.50_____8.12
> 1___16.75_____8.56
> 1___17.37_____9.05
> 1___18.33_____9.70
> 1___18.84____10.65
> 1___19.45____11.68
> 1___20.48____13.07
> 1___21.77____14.82
> 1___23.78____17.29
> 1___25.74____19.60
> 1___29.05____22.10
> 1___33.18____24.02
> 1___38.33____25.92
> 1___43.48____28.08
> 1___48.64____29.77
>
> Wow! I just typed this out; I've never seen a tuning diverge this much even
> in the middle.  Hmmmm.... Let's see how TLpro compares.  Remember, these are
> different partials being compared this time.  Also, these aren't tweaked
> tunings, just using the default settings.
>
> partial/TLpro/VT
>
> 6__-6.15___-17.33
> 6__-5.78___-16.05
> 6__-5.42___-15.32
> 6__-5.08___-13.32
> 6__-4.76___-14.85
> 6__-4.44___-16.50
> 6__-4.13___-15.99
> 6__-3.83___-14.68
> 6__-3.54___-13.36
> 6__-3.26___-12.07
> 6__-2.98___-11.24
> 6__-2.71___-10.11
> 6__-2.44____-9.47
> 6__-2.18____-8.16
> 6__-1.91____-6.29
> 6__-1.65____-4.44
> 6__-1.38____-5.38
> 6__-1.11____-6.57
> 6__-0.83____-6.12
> 6__-0.55____-5.40
> 4__-2.65____-9.70
> 4__-2.36____-7.97
> 4__-2.07____-6.75
> 4__-1.79____-5.66
> 4__-1.51____-4.45
> 4__-1.23____-3.88
> 4__-0.95____-3.31
> 4__-0.67____-1.96
> 4__-0.39____-2.60
> 4__-0.09____-3.44
> 4___0.20____-2.85
> 4___0.51____-2.23
> 2__-1.47____-4.75
> 2__-1.28____-3.97
> 2__-1.09____-3.29
> 2__-0.90____-2.58
> 2__-0.70____-2.35
> 2__-0.50____-2.13
> 2__-0.30____-1.88
> 2__-0.09____-1.61
> 2___0.13____-1.32
> 2___0.36____-1.01
> 2___0.59____-0.66
> 2___0.84____-0.29
> 2___1.10_____0.10
> 2___1.38_____0.53
> 2___1.67_____0.99
> 2___1.98_____1.44
> 1___0.00_____0.00
> 1___0.17____-0.10
> 1___0.35____-0.16
> 1___0.54____-0.17
> 1___0.74____-0.11
> 1___0.95_____0.04
> 1___1.17_____0.25
> 1___1.42_____0.51
> 1___1.67_____0.84
> 1___1.95_____1.10
> 1___2.24_____1.43
> 1___2.56_____1.79
> 1___2.90_____1.75
> 1___3.26_____1.80
> 1___3.65_____1.95
> 1___4.07_____2.20
> 1___4.52_____2.54
> 1___5.01_____2.95
> 1___5.53_____3.44
> 1___6.09_____4.04
> 1___6.70_____4.71
> 1___7.36_____5.40
> 1___8.06_____6.14
> 1___8.83_____6.93
> 1___9.65_____7.75
> 1__10.53_____8.12
> 1__11.49_____8.56
> 1__12.52_____9.05
> 1__13.63_____9.70
> 1__14.83____10.65
> 1__16.12____11.68
> 1__17.52____13.07
> 1__19.03____14.82
> 1__20.65____17.29
> 1__22.41____19.60
> 1__24.30____22.10
> 1__26.34____24.02
> 1__28.55____25.92
> 1__30.93____28.08
> 1__33.50____29.77
>
> So, there ARE differences between the tuning gear out there.  This is a
> tough piano, I'm sure a "better" one would show less of a difference.  I
> wanted to throw the numbers out there to substantiate the claims that
> something new is going on with the VT tunings.  I'm not, however, going to
> take the time to tune this piano with each of the different gear and report
> back.  I know from past experience that each might be acceptable, but I
> prefer the VT tunings.
>
> Ron Koval
>
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Greg Newell
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