Fw: Shaft from Schaff on Piano Gold Paint

[David Love]

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The current NY Steinway color made by Walter Wurdack is less yellow and =
more bronze.  I noticed, however, while tuning a new Hamburg A this week =
that the color on those plates is much more the old style yellowish =
gold.  Very nice color.  I also noticed that it has a satin finish on it =
unlike the glossy finishes of many plates I see.   It would be nice if =
anyone knows whether the lacquer on those Hamburg plates is available in =
a can and where it might be had.  They sometimes produce aerosol =
versions for touch up work.

David Love =20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Erwinspiano@AOL.COM=20
  To: pianotech@ptg.org ; jgrassi@silverlink.net=20
  Sent: July 26, 2002 6:59 PM
  Subject: Re: Fw: Shaft from Schaff on Piano Gold Paint


  In a message dated 7/26/2002 9:13:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time, =
cmpiano@attbi.com writes:

                 Hi Jeannie Carl
            I'm late on this thread but I'd like to go on record as =
saying that I have seen only one plate ever sprayed with a can that =
looked first class. Most have a  green or bronzish/brown look that =
doesn't even vaguely resemble the original color. Perhaps there are =
better spray can finishes I'm not aware of but I frequently refinish =
plates that have had this treatment  and find that often the spray =
canned on finish has turned brittle as well as the under coat.  This =
turns into a more complicated job as it isn't prudent to spray a new =
finish over an already brittle one. It must be stripped down . Stripping =
it is less problematic than sand blasting as the black original under =
coat is usually salvageable =20
          I've found  a blend of bronzing powders from an outfit back =
east Bob Corey & associates 516-485-5544 that allows for a variety of =
bronzing colors. No.s 99 96 are part of my mix plus a starr product =
which adds the yellow to the color. The one we blend is close to many =
original colors that contain a quite yellow base. Our mixed color is =
about the color of polished brass. Two tablespoons of the mixed powders =
toa  small spray gun cup of acrylic gloss lacquer. Its easy to spray =
(hey I can do it) it covers well. Two coats to cover and two coats of =
gloss over that gives a plate finish way better than most factories put =
out. This is a resielint chip resistent finish that stays pliable which =
avoids the stringer/reassembly damage and looks stunning with a new =
finish. This bronze mix can be mixed in nitro cellulose as well but it's =
more fragile. This process can be done in a four hours or less not =
including stripping. Flame suit on! .
  >>>>>>>>.Dale Erwin--->>>>>>>>>



    Jeannie:  I'd like to add that I haven't used any undercoat or =
primer nor any sealer.  Just the Aervoe rust proof paint by itself.  =
Just put on one coat to see the results, then fill and sand.  One more =
light followed by a medium coat in 30 minutes is all I do.  I haven't =
noticed any tarnishing or any problem.  However time may tell. =20

    Carl

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: "Carl Meyer" <cmpiano@attbi.com>
    To: "Jeannie Grassi" <jgrassi@silverlink.net>
    Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 7:53 AM
    Subject: Re: Shaft from Schaff on Piano Gold Paint



    Of course

    Carl Meyer  Assoc. PTG
    Santa Clara, California
    cmpiano@attbi.com=20

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: "Jeannie Grassi" <jgrassi@silverlink.net>
    To: <cmpiano@attbi.com>
    Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 9:48 PM
    Subject: RE: Shaft from Schaff on Piano Gold Paint


    > Hi Carl,
    > May I use this for TT&T in the Journal?
    > Thanks,
    > Jeannie
    >=20
    > Jeannie Grassi, RPT
    > Associate Editor, Piano Technicians Journal
    > mailto:jgrassi@silverlink.net=20
    >=20
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org] On =
Behalf
    > Of Carl Meyer
    > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 1:51 PM
    > To: pianotech@ptg.org
    > Subject: Re: Shaft from Schaff on Piano Gold Paint
    >=20
    >=20
    > Aervoe-Pacific Co.  in Gardnerville NE. has a great gold rust =
proof
    > paint No 311.  I've used it for several years since I bought a =
case of
    > quarts and a case of aerosols.  It has now clumped a bit so I need =
to
    > mix like mad and strain through panty hose, but I like it.  When I =
first
    > got it I sprayed a rusty piece of steel and hung it on the fence.  =
A
    > year later it was still fine.
    >=20
    > My price list is two years old, but it was then $2.75 for a 16 oz =
can.
    > I do think they have a min order of at least $50. I've also bought
    > several cases of their mold release (teflon spray).  934 tfe dry =
film
    > lube @ $4.94 per 16 oz.  Works great on knuckles, etc. =20
    >=20
    > Web site www.aervoe.com  They have a distribution site in Ill. I =
think.
    >=20
    > Did I say I like the stuff?  It has a slightly green tinge but =
looks
    > quite nice.  A new product at slightly higher cost is their 5003 =
gold
    > royal coat.  I haven't used it yet.  I still have enough of the =
other
    > old stuff for now.  FWIW.
    >=20
    > Carl Meyer  Assoc. PTG
    > Santa Clara, California
    > cmpiano@attbi.com=20
    >=20
    > ----- Original Message -----=20
    > From: "Gordon Holley" <gholley@hi-techhousing.com>
    > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
    > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 10:18 AM
    > Subject: Shaft from Schaff on Piano Gold Paint
    >=20
    >=20
    > > List.  I placed an order with Schaff for piano gold spray paint =
on
    > > Tuesday and not receiving the order I called just now and they =
now=20
    > > say, "Oh, we don't carry that any more, our supplier doesn't =
have=20
    > > it".  And then they asked if I hadn't received a call from some =
one=20
    > > telling me of the shortage.  NO, no call, no paint.  Now, where =
have=20
    > > you purchased your piano gold paint for plates?.  Lowes, Sherwin =

    > > Williams, etc ?.  Any suggestions?  Thanks and regards, Gordon=20
    > > Holley, Goshen, Indiana.
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