EBVT Figures correction

Jason Kanter jkanter@rollingball.com
Fri, 4 Oct 2002 06:21:11 -0700


Bill, your credibility is at stake here. You are implying that you listed the wrong numbers because you made a transcribing error and they were in a different sequence and a few of the numbers got crossed. So where is the +3.8 in the first group? And if the corrected figures below are now accurate, your bearing plan has changed significantly from what you have been promoting since forever. These disconnects, coupled with your immediately pointing to "others" who might make mistakes, cast doubt on the whole enterprise. You're saying basically "I'm not careful with numbers, therefore others make mistakes too." I won't issue any new charts with your data until you publish scans of Owen's letter. 

Jason

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <SidewaysWell1713@aol.com>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 2:53 AM
Subject: EBVT Figures correction


| In a message dated 10/3/02 1:14:28 PM Central Daylight Time, 
| SidewaysWell1713@aol.com writes:
| 
| 
| > C   +1.2
| > C#  -0.8
| > D   +0.9
| > D#  +.09
| > E    -2.0
| > F    +1.8
| > F#   -2.7
| > G   +3.1
| > G#  +1.2
| > A      0.0
| > A#  +2.4
| > B      0.0
| > 
| 
| OOPS, this is my main reason for not ever trusting this method of passing 
| along information.  It is far too easy to make transcribing errors.  If you 
| don't know or understand what you're doing aurally, how would you ever know 
| that you had made a mistake?
| 
| Here are Jorgensen's figures:
| 
| C    +3.8
| C#   -0.8
| D    +0.9
| D#   +3.1
| E     -2.0
| F     +1.8
| F#   -2.7
| G    +3.1
| G#   +1.2
| A       0.0
| A#    +2.4
| B       0.0
| 
| Jorgensen listed them in a different order, so between the sandwhich and the 
| banana, a few of the numbers got crossed.  I wonder if this has ever happened 
| to anyone trying to dial in offsets to an ETD program, hmmm?  Once I got an 
| inquiry from someone whose name I'll not disclose but who is highly respected 
| for his work.  He wondered if the -10 figure for the note C was correct for 
| 1/4 Meantone or if it should be +10?  He casually added that he didn't know 
| the difference, didn't go by *descriptions*, just the numbers.
| 
| How many errors might there be in some of these lists of temperament 
| "correction figures" I have seen out there?  Have these errors ever caused 
| anyone to have an opinion which was based on a faulty transcription or 
| analysis?  Think about that and use your ears to tune, not your eyes, as 
| Frans Mohr says.
| 
| Bill Bremmer RPT
| Madison, Wisconsin
| www.Billbremmer.com
| 

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