Weird tuning pin experience

[Farrell]

4.  Remove all tuning pins, swab inside of tuning pin holes with marine epoxy, reinstall tuning pins.

Just to be clear on this one - let epoxy harden a day or two before driving pins back in - otherwise you had better make that first tuning a good one!

Terry Farrell
  
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vanderhoofven" <dkvander@joplin.com>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Cc: "Alan R. Barnard" <mathstar@salemnet.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: Weird tuning pin experience


> At 06:10 PM 10/23/02, Alan R. Barnard wrote:
> 
> >Pins are only about 20-25 in. lbs. torque.
> 
> 
> Personally, I do not tune pianos with 20-25 inch-pounds torque if I can 
> help it.  In fact, my last appointment of the day was condemning a Lester 
> Betsy Ross spinet with 10-20 inch pounds torque.  There is no sense in 
> tuning a piano like this.  Frustrates the tuner, frustrates the piano 
> owner, and wastes your time and their money.  A piano with low torque 
> (20-25 inch-pounds torque) is not tuneable and needs repairs before a 
> tuning will hold.  50 inch-pounds is ok, below 50 inch-pounds is not.  70 
> inch-pounds torque is much better.
> 
> The piano needs (in order of cost)
> 1.  A new pinblock
> 2.  Restringing with larger tuning pins
> 3.  A set of larger tuning pins (but if you have 16 year old wire, watch 
> out for breaking strings while replacing the tuning pins)
> 4.  Remove all tuning pins, swab inside of tuning pin holes with marine 
> epoxy, reinstall tuning pins.
> 5.  CA glue treatment of the pinblock  - (Alan, look in the archives or 
> write me about this repair.)
> 6.  Shimming individual tuning pins.  (Note this is INDIVIDUAL tuning 
> pins.  If you have a lot of loose tuning pins, shimming is not the way to 
> go, in my opinion.)
> 
> >Tunes okay, doesn't hold. Has DC installed 4 mos. ago.
> 
> 
> Torque is too low to hold.  Piano is untunable with 20-25 inch-pounds 
> torque.  My frustration level with loose tuning pins is such that if the 
> torque is too low, I won't tune.  I hate call backs, and I hate doing work 
> that I can't guarantee.
> 
> >Alan Barnard
> >Performing CPR (Critical Piano Repairs) in Salem, MO
> 
> 
> Alan, call me, or e-mail.  I'd like to help if I can.
> 
> Sincerely,
> David Vanderhoofven
> Joplin, MO
> 
> 
> 
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