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Hi List,
In the early days of my subscribing to this list the attached message =
was sent out by Andy for our general information.
I am not sure how many of the lists are still available but I would =
suggest that we all re-read what was said back then. (November 08, 1998) =
I am sure that you will all agree that if everyone followed these guide =
lines we would all be living with a very happy list.
I would even suggest that when anybody subscribes to this list that they =
automatically be sent a guide such as this as information on what the =
subscribers of this list want and can expect.
Since this date (November 08, 1998) I have in my deleted items box 2656 =
messages. This does not include the many messages that I have saved in =
different boxes but it does give some indication as to how much traffic =
with in many cases, repeated messages that are now kept forever.
Regards to you all,
=20
Tony Caught
caute@optusnet.com.au
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Andrew M. Rudoff=20
To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 1998 1:06 AM
Subject: Subscription requests, etc.
>> Subscription request Piano Tech - Kent Spelman
To the folks on the list:
I catch most of these subscription requests before they get posted,
but if you see one get through like this, rest assured that I will
respond privately to the sender with subscription instructions. In
this case, I sent the FAQ to the poster about two hours after the =
posting
(and I noticed he did indeed get subscribed).
Another trick is to look at the Date: field in a posting. If it was
posted multiple days ago, you might want to read any replies before
posting your reply. This helps cut down on many people posting the
same thing over and over again.
Finally, I should mention that one reply contained incorrect info:
>"subscribe pianotech Kent Spelman"
The above line will NOT work. Our cheapo software wants:
subscribe pianotech
or
unsubscribe pianotech
sent to the address:
majordomo@ptg.org
There should be nothing after the name of the mailing list. I guess
it is time to post the FAQ again! It is included below.
-andy
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MAILING LISTS PROVIDED BY THE PIANO TECHNICIANS GUILD
As of February 11, 1998
This file is available on the web at:
http://www.ptg.org/faq/lists.html
The following lists are provided by the PTG as a community
service. The PTG does not maintain any control over the
content of these lists. Each list is described briefly below,
along with subscription information. When posting, please
remember to choose the appropriate list for your topic.
PIANOTECH -- a forum for piano technicians
The "pianotech" list is intended for technical discussions
among piano technicians. Other topics of general interest
to piano technicians do come up, but the main focus is on
sharing technical information. It is an "open" list, allowing
anyone to subscribe and submit posts.
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containing only this line:
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instead. Messages are posted by sending them to:
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To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@ptg.org
containing only this line:
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This list is archived on the web at:
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PTG-L -- a list for PTG related discussions
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itself (policies, politics, announcements, etc.). It is for
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containing only this line:
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subscribe ptg-l-digest
instead. Messages are posted by sending them to:
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CAUT -- a forum for College And University Technicians
The "caut" list is intended for College And University
Technicians (abbreviated CAUT). It is an "open" list,
allowing anyone to subscribe and submit posts.
To subscribe, send a message to majordomo@ptg.org
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HUMOR -- humor for piano technicians
The "humor" list is a moderated list. Anyone can subscribe to it,
but posts must be approved by a moderator. This keeps the list
volume low and on topic.
The "humor" list is intended for jokes, funny stories, etc.
It is an "open" list, allowing anyone to subscribe and submit posts.
To subscribe, send a message to majordomo@ptg.org
containing only this line:
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subscribe humor-digest
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This list is archived on the web at:
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TESTING THE LISTS
PLEASE DO NOT POST TEST MESSAGES TO THE LISTS! When you post a =
message
that says "just testing" you are cluttering up hundreds of mailboxes =
and
your message gets entered into the archives for that list. Instead,
send the line:
which
to the address:
majordomo@ptg.org
This line asks the server software to tell you which lists you are on.
The messages take the same path as a posted message, so you end up =
testing
that you can send mail to the server, and that it can send mail back =
to you.
In addition, you get to see what lists the server thinks you're on, so =
that
tells you if you have somehow been unsubscribed. Best of all, you =
don't
bother hundreds of people with a "testing" message. The "which" =
command is
handled automatically, so you can do this type of test as often as you =
like
(i.e. every month, every day, every hour, whatever).
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PTG MAILING LISTS
1. What types of posts are allowed and disallowed on each list?
Anyone can post anything. But each list does have its
intended purpose and everyone will be happiest if we all
try to stick to topics appropriate for each list. Sending
a PTG political discussion to pianotech or a completely
non-PTG related message to ptg-l are guaranteed ways to
get flamed.
Please follow these guildlines when posting:
- Sign your real name to your messages (adding your location
and place of employment is even better).
- Don't post large attachments or messages -- offer to send it
to people or make it available on the web instead.
- Don't "cross-post" your message to multiple mailing lists.
Choose the one forum best suited for your topic instead.
2. Why aren't the lists moderated?
The lists are meant to be open forums. Moderating these lists
would be a big job and it would be tricky to filter these lists
in a way that everyone agrees is fair. If enough interest arises,
we can create new, moderated lists in addition to the open lists
we have.
3. How do I tell the list server to send me my own posts?
This list software, majordomo, always sends you copies of your
own posts (it is not configurable).
4. How do I tell the list server to send me digests?
You must unsubscribe to the list and subscribe instead
to the "-digest" version of the list as explained earlier
in this document. For example, subscribing to "pianotech"
will cause you to receive every post individually. Subscribing
to "pianotech-digest" will cause you to receive collections
of posts periodically.
5. I'm going out of town, how do I suspend delivery?
You must unsubscribe and re-subscribe when you return.
6. Is there a way to search the on-line archives?
Not yet, but that is in the works. In the mean time, there is
an excellent searchable archive of the pianotech list maintained
by David Parkhurst at:
http://www.webcom.com/wind/ptsearch.html
7. Why don't the on-line archives contain old messages?
We're currently only archiving those messages sent after the lists
moved to the PTG server. We're in the process of updating the
archives to contain old messages.
8. Why did my message take so long to be sent out on the list?
Several things could cause delays. The two most likely delays are:
- some machine or network is temporarily down
- you message required approval by the list manager
Messages require approval by the list manager if they contain
words like "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" at the top. This avoids
the very common annoyance of someone sending these requests to
the list instead of to majordomo@ptg.org. If the list manager
determines the message should really go out on the list, it is
approved.
If you think your message has been dropped or delayed an unusual
amount of time, DON'T SEND MORE MAIL OUT TO THE LIST! This just
causes a wave of "is the list working?" messages. Be patient!
You can always send the word "help" to majordomo@ptg.org to see
if the server is responding, or contact admin@ptg.org for more
detailed status.
9. Who do I contact for list administrative issues?
admin@ptg.org
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